Is Classic finished due to Layering exploit?

Demanding a perma-ban makes it less likely that Blizzard will do it. A character wipe would be sufficient to undo the damage. Maybe a reputation mark on the account, but again that is coding work that Blizzard would need to do.

A Wowhead poster gave him cover in regards to being able to “play dumb” on the matter. Contacting Bizzard about the issue and asking for clarification/guidance also helped cover his posterior on that.

That it was clear that they also didn’t deliberately seek to create the situation they found themselves in, and having it recorded on stream, further helped cement things for them on that count.

The guys who deliberately and knowingly took advantage of it(to create such situations)? They’re in for some hurt.

speaking of self sabotage…

there’s always retail

hahaaha

If you have to include several leaps of logic and assumptions in your theory then it probably isn’t true.

They made Classic because there is demand for Classic, first and foremost. Even according to your own logic it would be beneficial to keep Classic alive so those players stay hooked and try out the modern version in the long term (while everyone on this subforum recoils at the idea it is absolutely true that some people came for classic and have tried and liked the modern version too).

ban everyone,even his buddy Esfat?

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His act about playing by the rules is so fake and playing dumb while simultaneously claiming to be a Classic expert. He is scum

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After playing Classic, I’m not sure what could bring me back to retail.

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Fix it or loose another monthly sub number. I will not stay if this exploit stays and the guilty not stripped.

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it is what it is blizzard wanted layering in classic so be it.

blame blizzard fully.

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It was funny reading all the posts defending layering before classic was released. And the people who warned of layering abuse? Oh they were absolutely pooped on because the majority said that they didn’t want to compete over resources, mobs, quest items, etc.

It’s absolutely amazing how inept a company can be for so long and have this type of success. Great job Blizzard. You failed to even match the expectations of some Russian bootleg run private servers. Who would have thought a non classic feature added back into classic was bad? I mean it’s practically comical at this point how detached the developers are from their own games.

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Where were the leaps in logic?
Getting older players back and possibly playing bfa again could very well have been the plan. Then as you said they don’t need any development time once the game is set up, so the group that stays on classic would basically just be free money.

They wanted to build up hype and get some folks hooked on bfa as that hype winds down, and keep a relatively small group in classic.

That part is exactly what I think they wanted. I don’t think they expected classic to be so huge at all.
It’s just my opinion and you are welcome to your own.

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I was under the impression it was going to be leveling zones only, not stuff past 40s and certainly not instances.
Even with the exploits happening I would still prefer layering over 300 players camping every single mob spawn and taking days to get past level 10.

My little tin foil theory, after seeing how poorly classic was executed, is that classic is just being used to test some theories, paricularly about layering.

Blizz doesn’t really give a heck if classic succeeds. We are just lab rats.

If you assume that blizz wants classic to be a success, than how do you plausibly explain this dumpster fire of a launch?

Their means in no way vector towards an end that allows for a enduring classic. So they must have another end in mind.

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It is most likely just a sensationalist media spin on the entire thing, just like the guy that took a screenshot and had a bank full of Arcane Crystals (which was debunked). There’s no logistical way, even with said exploit that said guild could have generated that much gold.

People instantly believe every profound crazy thing they read if it gives them an excuse to tear something down. Relax boys.

would actually be a good thing. they just made something great as painful to bare than retail.

OP is a typical retail-baby doomsayer. Flag and move on.

as opposed to the P-server baby doomsayer all up in arms about people AoE’ing dungeons?

I’m going to take a guess and say even people on private servers AoE’d dungeons, so I’m not sure why those people would have a problem with it. :\

After 15 years I’d be surprised if people didn’t have classic down to a science. This is what happens when it is.

EDIT: This of course depends on if the private server scales everything up to be more difficult or not.

Pretty much. It’s not a conspiracy theory when you look at how this launch has been handled. There are one of two choices:

  1. Blizzard doesn’t give a rat’s rear about Classic, and is using it for some sort of test (probably layering or sabotage to try to get people back to retail)
  2. Blizzard is really that incompetent and can’t do anything right

I’m not sure which is worse.

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How to fix layering in one step that makes it so people can’t exploit it, without ruining the intended purpose of letting people still make parties to do content together.

Make it so you can’t layer to a party unless you’re within 50 yards of others in that party.

And make it so you can’t layer in an instance.

It does make me feel like an idiot for leveling without layering and farming without layering if Blizz is fine with it though.