Is Blizzard going to start selling physical authentators again for people who don't have Smart Phones?

[Synsha-sargeras]

This… Smartphones enable the convenience of doing everything you can already do on your computer directly to your hand. That’s it. They’re in no way required to function.

@Kaemane-area-52

It’s access to the collective knowledge of mankind in your pocket, and instantaneous access to global communication.

Like my laptop then?

@Kaemane-area-52

I can step off a plane in a city I’ve never been to and navigate as good or better than someone who’s lived there their entire lives.

Like my laptop then?

@Kaemane-area-52

I can hail a taxi in a dive bar off the beaten path because I don’t feel safe driving home.

So you mean I plan my method home prior to going out then?

@Kaemane-area-52

I can have a face to face talk with one of my vendors in New Delhi from anywhere in the world.

Like my laptop then?

@Kaemane-area-52

You don’t need a phone. You don’t need a car. You don’t need pasteurized milk. Like, who decides where the cutoff is for forcing society to accommodate people who won’t move forward?

The first two are correct depending upon your situation. I didn’t have a car for all of years in university. The third though… sure if you like tuberculosis?

Again, how does the OP asking for a physical authenticator negatively impact you?

@Kaemane-area-52

If I chose not to have a car, I wouldn’t then ask the local council to build a walking path to accommodate me.

That’s funny… cause many cities have exactly that. In fact the more modern ones ENCOURAGE you to walk/bike.

@Kaemane-area-52

If I chose to grow my own food, I wouldn’t ask the FDA to come round and inspect it for me.

Ok, you just suck at analogies.

@Kaemane-area-52

So why would someone who chooses not to have a smart device ask to be accommodated like this?

Because they decided to make a relatively inane change within the group finder that previously functioned. That’s why.

[Vhisic-caelestrasz]

@Vaeana-area-52

So OP has two choices:

Generic M+ titles

or Get the smart phone and app.

i think they are asking for the wrong things. They want their old style physical authenticator. they should be asking to have the app ported run on a pc. It is safe to assume the VAST VAAAAAAAAAAAST majority of players have a computer right?

waiting for the “what about those of us that play on a slab on concrete?”

[Vieria-moon-guard]

Yeah, I don’t get why we can’t just install the app on our computer, that way, only our computer is able to generate that code to log in, and if someone steals the desktop tower out of my house, I got WAY bigger problems to deal with.

EDIT: For that matter, is there anything blocking the ability to install an Andriod emulator on a Windows PC to run the android app?

[Synsha-sargeras]

@Burgok-wyrmrest-accord

They’re a requirement in many work environments, which is why those companies provide the phones. They also are the medium for distance-related services like telehealth. I have a relative who is disabled and uses their phone for stuff like that.

That’s a farcry from the statement that they are required for modern day life.

@Burgok-wyrmrest-accord

Now, you can definitely make an argument or situation where it isn’t needed, but I think that loses the point.

No, that is the point. That’s why I’m responding to the poster insisting that they’re completely required for basic modern day life.

They’re a convenience. They’re not required. At all.

[Vhisic-caelestrasz]

@Vieria-moon-guard

if someone steals the desktop tower out of my house, I got WAY bigger problems to deal with.

yea i doubt running M+ will be on my mind in that case.

[Kaemane-area-52]

Because then there’s no “M” in “MFA”. Going to a separate device is the important part, in case your computer is compromised.

[Diandarla-moon-guard]

@Azuremi-proudmoore

Just because it doesn’t affect you doesn’t mean it isn’t a huge issue. For people like myself without a smart phone it makes it really hard to do M+.

Players who don’t own a “smart phone” are a very miniscule minority.

[Azuremi-proudmoore (Azuremi)]

Funny thing Blizzards direct competition still offers this

https://store.na.square-enix-games.com/en_US/product/564762/square-enix-security-token

[Bitabiitah-norgannon]

@Kaemane-area-52

It’s 2021. You need a smartphone for literally day to day life in the modern era. Making concessions to luddites will just hold the world back.

No, you don’t need a smart phone for “literally” day-to-day life. Pew estimates 15% of the population does not have a smart phone.

And that’s not what Luddism is. Luddism is active, conscious opposition to tech and automation. Simply not having specific types of it doesn’t qualify.

@Kaemane-area-52

You might as well ask for fast moving sidewalks so you don’t need a car. Its a ludicrous request.

People are asking for an alternative form of authentication, including a form that previously existed for WoW. You’re claiming that’s akin to asking for moving sidewalks to replace cars. One of those things is reasonable request, and other is an absurd attack.

[Vieria-moon-guard]

I could always install it on one of the other computers in my house.

/shrug

[Bitabiitah-norgannon]

@Vhisic-caelestrasz

See, Most people do go out, they do have RL friends, you being… you shouldnt bring the rest of us down.

This is as ugly as it is ignorant.

[Synsha-sargeras]

I’m surprised they do have RL friends acting like that…

[Vieria-moon-guard]

I live out in the boonies, with almost nobody my age that shares similar interests. It’s not like I choose to not have any friends, lol. There’s just none that live around here that I’d wanna be friends with.

I’m not into hunting, and drugs, and ATVs and junk like most guys around here.

[Vhisic-caelestrasz]

yet i do. Maybe im not the terrible one.

[Dedeyn-ravenholdt]

@Vieria-moon-guard

EDIT: For that matter, is there anything blocking the ability to install an Andriod emulator on a Windows PC to run the android app?

you still need a cell phone number

[Sorelai-wyrmrest-accord (Sorelai)]

@Dedeyn-ravenholdt

People are willing to have an authenticator - a physical one. What they aren’t too willing to do it create themselves a $40 extra monthly expense for a phone.

You don’t need cell service to use the authenticator app. Just a WiFi connection.

[Vieria-moon-guard]

See, what I don’t get is… banks… I mean BANKS… you know, the institution you store your money, like, thousands of real-life dollars, thinks that email 2FA is good enough for them… but yet Blizz doesn’t?

Somehow, an MMORPG needs higher security than, you know, a bank?

[Atacii-aerie-peak]

Doesn’t everyone browse the forums on their phones? I’ve literally never checked a gaming forum on my pic or laptop ever.

[Dieselgamerx-fairbanks]

@Azuremi-proudmoore

Its bigger than you think

Or it’s smaller than you think.

I’m sure there are HUNDREDS of you playing this game without a functional modern phone.

[Dedeyn-ravenholdt]

you need a phone number and you can’t get that without a plan