What’s funny is you ask this question… after, in this very same thread, approvingly quoting someone who seems to view it as a reward that Horde players are still allowed to play their characters. It doesn’t have to spell out word for word “I want the Horde exterminated” for someone to be able to critically read between then lines and see what players are supporting.
Not to mention the hordes of NEFPAs who routinely call for the same thing. You say you want the Horde to “pay for what they did” and not to conflate that with extermination? Fine. Your personal opinion is most certainly that; I’ve seen you make other suggestions before, to your credit.
But to suggest that there aren’t people who want to grind the Horde player faction into the dust is fairly disingenuous.
It would be portrayed as a character who’s joining the Alliance simply to betray and villainize them; and thus … a means to preserve the purity of those truly Alliance characters. Her “joining” the Alliance to use them to continue her Light Crusade on the other hand, would rely more on her manipulating their ambitions, fears, grievances, and goals to action.
She may be the primary antagonist, or at least a precursor one to a Light Cosmology expansion … but the Alliance would hold some accountability at least. They allowed the monster in, and only realized that too late.
I don’t even care if he dies. I don’t seek it. Which is why I gave him so many “outs”. Consequences are all that really matter, and him realizing he let the Light Borg get a massive foothold on Azeroth and starting crystalizing it … is a mistake that leads to consequences. While manipulated, it was his and others ambitions that allowed such a thing to occur … there’s nuance there.
The Lightbound are such an intriguing enemy because they don’t want to destroy, they want to “save”. Its very “convert or die” sure, but its compelling. Its an extremism of the Light that can really be subtle when it needs to be, and the fact that they can forcibly thrall and convert makes it even more so. Such a concept is for the Alliance to get some hits on the Horde, take some moral grey injections sure … but having Yrel and her Lightbound actually learn from the mistakes of the Iron Horde and use the faction that wouldn’t know any better to invade … so cool.
Galenhprn is simply talking about the fact that despite everything the Horde has done over the years, the faction is still relatively intact, when if consequences were allowed to matter the Horde would no longer exist as an entity, or at the very least be denounced by every neutral faction there is. He is simply frustrated that the Horde seemingly has been allowed to scapegoat Sylvanas, and I share that frustration.
Vereesa is more or less understandable. Loosing somebody dear is something that is managable for some people, but there are also those who can no longer recover from it.
Jaina is odd. She is pro-peace, so I am really surprised why would she not go further. Like, admit the event, maybe try to offer something to families of those who died. She is the leader of Kul’tiras now, after all, so could afford it.
It’s not the only option. Could it work? Kind of. Not sure why would “evil light” be considered a better option than elves going into more empirialistic route or Anduin going to the dark side, but whatever. There is like half a dozen options that have basis in the story right now. But who knows what the devs would pick.
Sure, he can. Just be aware that there are other details about him too that make the choice of specifically Turalyon and “evil light” somewhat odd. Like, ok, you want that guy. Cool. I’m just pointing out that there are some… extra details. You can take them into account. You can ignore it.
But above all, if anybody would care about what I say, no need to rush, stay healthy, and good luck, have fun.
I would not say I totally dislike the idea of Turalyon being offender. I dislike the idea of him acting without provocation. And I am not sure why is it so relevant to focus on Turalyon and push him to a border of being out of character, when there are quite a few other options that are already in the story. Like those. Or these.
Somehow this is still eluding certain people. Either they don’t understand or they truly believe the horde player base needs to be punished further for story decisions they had no control over to begin with.
Besides Teldrassil, the expansion was entirely in their favor. They really have little to complain about. They won every single major battle of the war, lost none of their demi god heroes, got to beat up on the horde yet again.
While the horde gets told yet again why they suck for even existing, embarassingly loose every battle mattered and lost yet another iconic character to the villian bat.
So please, stop with the nonsense that the alliance are somehow victims. They aren’t
That’s a very big besides, and it has not yet been resolved. I know there is a storyline in ardenweald but i’m fully expecting a “night elven souls are taken from eternal torment and sent to their afterlife, Tyrande loses her powerup” kinda deal, which is hardly sufficient. But hopefully i’m wrong.
Besides Teldrassil, the expansion was entirely in their favor. They really have little to complain about. They won every single major battle of the war, lost none of their demi god heroes, got to beat up on the horde yet again.
While the horde gets told yet again why they suck for even existing, embarassingly loose every battle mattered and lost yet another iconic character to the villian bat.
So please, stop with the nonsense that the alliance are somehow victims. They aren’t
Winning Dal’azor resulted in the Zandalari Joining the Horde. Winning Stormgard was told off screen and is offset by losing Teldrassil. Winning Darkshore was simply the Alliance not losing anymore territory. What exactly did they win?
Oh well, I hope people will prioritise good sleep, health and positive / interesting things, over negativity. That story was too bad IMO, so it could be a good idea to slowly but surely distance from all the mess.
