The problem is having a faction war based on the complete conquest of the other faction where that can obviously never happen for gameplay reasons.
To progress the story they’re going to have to do some nonsensical things
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Over two thirds, globally, I’d estimate.
And Calia Menethil.
And Alonsus Faol.
And Meryl Felstorm.
And Derek Proudmoore.
And that’s not even mentioning the possibility that the undead NE wardens will go back to the Alliance eventually, as I’m convinced they will.
They’re setting the Alliance up to have multiple hooks into something death-related, I’m convinced of it. The fact that they’re all individuals with colorful backstory, as opposed to a broad “this group with no notable NPCs has a death focus” situation, gives me a sinking feeling that those characters listed above are going to be the focus if we have a Shadowlands expansion/patch.
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Isn’t he neutral?
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Theoretically, which is another reason why I have a nasty feeling that they’re going to make him a “main character” major questgiver for both sides. But his backstory is basically all Alliance history, so he could very easily serve as an “in” to get Alliance PCs involved in a storyline involving the Shadowlands. He doesn’t really have any similar links to the Horde unless you count the fact that he fought in the Troll Wars back when he was still alive.
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How known is his history? Because it sounds hilariously bad if I were to willingly take quests from the guy as a Zandalari or Darkspear.
He is a Forsaken.
Isn’t Faol explicitly not a member of the Forsaken because he dislikes what they’ve become?
As much as I’d like for it to happen because they’re an abomination of lore as NE’s serving Sylvanas, what makes you think that? They turned traitor supposedly of their own free will.
Maybe, not a line I have seen. Just that he calls himself a Forsaken in Before the Storm.
Could just be a shorthand to differentiate from other Undead. Or an oversight by the writer, either could be true. More likely than him throwing his lot in with Sylvanas anyway.
I would say so.
If he would have worked with the night elves to help them bolster their troops in ashenvale knowing that the tensions were high… then we may not have had such a bad turn out in WoT.
We didn’t really need to kill rastakan either… just burn his ships and get it if dodge.
Troll mages already take quests from him in Legion, and that particular part of his history isn’t mentioned.
He’s not Horde-aligned. Turalyon has accepted him. I think he’d be tapped to lead Alliance PCs into the Shadowlands.
Various things. First, they’re another piece of the pattern of Alliance-originating undead characters who are suddenly everywhere, and I think the reason for that is to give the Alliance a reason to get involved in a death-themed expansion or patch. Second, their reason for being currently with the Horde is, as you say, so very bad; it feels to me like the writers are not bothering to make it good because they know it won’t be permanent. Third, the Delaryn/Sylvanas parallels should logically end with Delaryn turning against Sylvanas and going off to do her own thing. And fourth, this is a little harder to explain, but it doesn’t feel like they add anything to the Horde story at all. It feels like the writers just want undead NEs (who aren’t DKs) to exist, but they can’t think of anyone on the Alliance side who would raise them and the bad guys this expansion are all about Void, so they’re making the Horde do the dirty work.
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I said it once and ill say it again
Anduin should have been written like a young Tywin Lannister and not the mary suish jon snow he is, he did not grow up in a time of peace with the horde so why should he want it, he was betrayed as a child, teenager and now young adult so why is he so trusting? his leg was broken by Garrosh, by all accounts of what the alliance know his father was killed due to a horde betrayal in Legion and his most trusted advisor Genn was attacked during a ceasefire.
he does not have Meta knowledge to those events so he should not be the altruistic and forgiving character he is now and on top of all that HE IS TOLD HE IS THE CHOSEN ONE who in the history of things has been told they have divine right and has not gone sour.
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Its his magic bones
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No.
i disagree.
anduin’s character is just a sympthon.
You mention that he doesn’t feel “real” because that is true, because he makes always the perfect choices, hell he has “magic bones” as a lie detector.
so in the end he don’t make mistakes but that is just a sympthon.
but Let me tell you what is wrong with this story:
Warbringers sylvanas.
Blizzard wrote this to make “a wound that can never heal” in their own words.
So we are in this stupid scenario where if anduin didn’t responded to teldrassil he would be insane that wasn’t a hard choice
or some “morally gray moments” that other characters already had like genn abandoning the alliance or jaina leaving arthas or not siding with daelin.
or even velen that had to flee from the legion.
he is just incapable of making mistakes, and even if HE DOES (like not taking blight mask to lordaeron that ended up in disaster if it wasn’t by 2 deux machimas)
nodoby ever mentions it. they just pat him the back or claim “you are doing the best you can to stop her” wut.
but like i say, that is not the source of everything that is wrong with this story, is teldrassil where the only reasonable response would be the complete dismantling of one of the playable factions.
blizzard wrote themselves into a corner
what players are going to get screwed the most?
it will be us, alliance players? or horde players?
half of us (that at least care about the story) are terrified with the fact that probably they aren’t going to give us a proper revenge
while the other half is scared that they give us what we want at the price of another warchief killed. again
blizzard isn’t doing it for his story, they are doing it to have more expansions or raid tiers regardless of how forced it is. so anduin, like many other characters remains just as a tools to have more expansions or raid tiers.
blizzard just focus on rule of cool moments instead of a proper character driven story.
does anybody here thinks that this is story is good for, by example, sylvana’s story? is OBVIOUS that she is setting up whatever next expansion will be but instead of coming naturally, everything feels forced or out of place.
“lets start a random war to kill hope”
“lets not press the attack to kill the zandalari despite that we almost died to get the advantage in the first place”
“let’s divide the alliance by giving them a reason to unite”
“lets cut the bonds with the zandalari and the horde by ATTACKING THEM!”
“we have nothing left, we are forsaken 
”
“baine represents the best of the horde… i mean i never met him before but that must be true because i say it”.
and multiple more examples.
so no, anduin is not the source, it’s warbringer sylvanas,teldrassil
AND ESPECIALLY THESE USELESS WRITTERS!
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The “legacy” of Varian is dead because no matter what any character says, Blizzard isn’t going to delete a facion that has the majority of the player base on it.
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And yet the writers keep presenting the Horde to the Alliance as something they need to delete. So they make Anduin High King and they have him be a borderline pacifist that makes Saturday morning cartoon characters look jaded and cynical.
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War of Thorns pretty much makes the mirror assumption to the Horde. Sylvannas starts a long play towards breaking up the Alliance. Well since we know that that’s not going to happen any more than Bruce Wayne is going to die in “Gotham” it’s the usual matter of taking the ride and see what curves it goes through.
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I would have to respectfully disagree, Sylvanas is a symptom and not the cause on why the writers have directed her and the story down this path. This current story is using Sylvanas to be a terrible Villain that Anduin needs to stop.
They are retconing things like wrathgate to put the blame on Sylvanas and also the actual history of the Forsaken to fit more inline with anduins plans for peace.
it is why Horde players liked her as a faction leader, However Blizzard now have to beat her with the villain stick to make them hate her. Even before this expansion had begun they were already make her replacement in Golden’s Novel and why the narrative focus is on Calia as much as Sylvanas(ignoring that most of it was Anduin).
The writers seem to only care for bringing everyone into line with Anduin or beating them with the Villian stick.
I know that they can’t delete the Horde(they might end up on the Alliance at this rate though). However It would have been a better narrative if the Alliance actually went into this war looking to win instead of our story being ignore all the evil the Hordes done because we need to save them from the bad warchief again, because that is what Anduin wants.
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Correction she’s a terrible villain that YOU have to stop.
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