Because everytime I go somewhere, I see a ton of alliance trying to gank the few remaining horde players. Are they STILL truly outnumbered? What method does Blizzard even uses to count who is being outnumbered? Isn’t it time for horde to actually get this buff?
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They’re just trying to defend their 30% increased rewards and free 400 weekly welfare gear. Nothing more. It was equal pre 8.1, even Ion said so. Alliance just gives up easily, not our fault, that’s their fault for giving up.
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I just don’t see how come it’s equal now, I literally see alliance everywhere and 0 horde.
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Anecdotal evidence doesn’t negate statistics
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Yeah it’s a shame. Horde don’t wanna compete if their opponents get more for just as much effort. We want equality.
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Only technically. Apparently the Horde still outnumber the Alliance. For PvP, I think the issue isn’t the number of active players but sharding.
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please, present me with your statistics. can’t wait for this one
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That’s the problem. The gear quest is called Against All Odds, but when they’re actually doing it and getting rewarded for it they’re usually the overwhelming majority. Then they turn off Warmode and get it again next week because they’re “outnumbered.”
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yeah but it’s one thing to ‘outnumber’ alliance by sitting in Great Seal. but it’s another thing to go to Kul Tiras trying to do the assault and literally see 0 horde trying it. I just don’t see how come alliance are still outnumbered when it comes to actual wpvp
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Blizzard bases this off their statistics for which side has more players with war mode on. Clearly horde has more players since alliance has the buff.
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I think it’s region based. That is they go off the numbers for the entire NA region, not by individual servers. And I guess Horde are still higher. You can’t judge it based off what you see on your server, only Blizz has the full picture of things.
But it’s possible that many Alliance just turn it off after finishing the quest and don’t stick around. So those certain zones are crowded with Alliance, but everywhere else in the world probably not so much.
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We were never truly outnumbered as far as population goes.
The problem was that we were slightly outnumbered in War Mode. And as Alliance players turned it on to try and experience it, they ran into groups of Horde coordinating together. Got camped. Hated it. Turned it off.
Which let to being moderately outnumbered in War Mode.
So the players who were trying to make it work ended up being outnumbered a significant amount of the time. Decided it wasn’t worth it. Turned it off.
etc. etc. etc. This lead to the Devs trying to bribe more Alliance players into turning it on.
This lead to the 30% and a seesaw effect.
Then the item level 400 quest showed up, which lead to a dramatically more intense seesaw.
So the Horde is suddenly suffering the same effects that the Alliance were given the 30% buff to count-act.
It’s… a rocky picture without a really good solution from what I can see.
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I’m guessing they tally things up based on the week, so it probably looks like it at times yeah, but one can’t be in every shard and every corner of the zones so alliance might be getting camped at the same time somewhere.
I guess we will see how they adjust things on tuesday.
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so they are basically using the ‘raw’ amount of characters with warmode on without even looking at the activity of that character and things like that? because there is no way there is more horde than alliance in world pvp right now, no matter the region. and I play on Tichondrius, which is 90% horde huge pvp server.
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Sadly we are outnumbered. Ye see, to make a Dwarf toon, ye have to pass a DED SEXAH test.
Not all make it.
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You’re outnumber because dwarves and gnomes only count as 1/2 a person
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Oh so now we trust Blizzard when their stupid decisions are in our favor. But otherwise we sit and whine about everything they do.
Ok, now I’m clear.
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A wat test?
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Answer to your question is yes
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Total population is irrelevant.
The problem is the incentives they gave Alliance condenses so much of the active population into small areas of the map. The Horde still outnumber the Alliance in the entier world, but the Horde was never in one condensed area the way the Alliance are now.
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