I don’t care for the High Elves but it’s a very unique problem caused by the developers.
that is because ion tried to change crap when he doing the lil interview with that one dude as they were gaming and he doesn’t even know what hes talking about 99% of the time. he can barely function this game let alone know anything about lore. don’t listen to him. he called belfs “something more” or whatever. guy they are high elves and so are the voids. don’t make it complicated and fix your game lol.
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Void Elves pretty much exist as a testament to the fact that having access to the Blood Elf model on the Alliance side still won’t move the needle to positively affect Alliance playership, even after they were granted non-void cosmetics.
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I Second the motion.
The Alliance has High Elves already.
time to copy-paste my explanation again, since folks still don’t understand how Warcraft elves work.
Here’s how it breaks down:
- Night Elves (the Kaldorei) evolved from the Dark Trolls who had settled around the Well of Eternity (the Dark Trolls are the ones who gave it that name by the way).
- The High Elves (the Quel’dorei) are just the arcane magic focused aristocracy of the Night Elves.
- Blood Elves (the Sin’dorei) are literally High Elves. When the High Elves were all banished by the main Night Elf society after the defeat of Azshara and the Sundering, they eventually settled Quel’Thalas and the other High Elven cities/outposts in Kalimdor and The Eastern Kingdoms. After almost all of them were killed during the Third War, they renamed themselves “Blood Elves” in remembrance of all who had died. The rest of the remaining High Elves are just the ones who themselves were banished after the Third War or voluntarily chose not to take up the “Blood Elf” mantle. The only thing that differentiates Blood Elves from High Elves, is ideology and politics.
- The Nightbourne ( Shal’dorei) are just the Night Elves (both “high” and “low” born) who lived in Suramar before The Sundering.
- The Void Elves (the Ren’dorei) are just Blood Elves banished for experimenting with the Void. Like the Blood Elves, the only thing that differentiates the Void Elves from High or Blood Elves is ideology and politics.
Both factions have 2 portions of the High Elven population under their banner.
Alliance has the OG Night Elves and the Void Elves.
Horde has the Blood Elves and the Nightborne
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Would rather say OG Night Elves + High Elves and the Void Elves at this point. They are definitely a subrace at this point.
We already have Hot Topic Elves and it didn’t help.
Either way its a non-issue now with cross-faction gameplay.
I gladly went back Ally when it didn’t mean locking myself out of doing Arena or M+ and i’m sure others will as well.
It really was a social issue first and foremost.
I liked the void elves.
This is one of the reasons why I left the game for the most part now.
I didn’t ask for high elves to become intertwined with void elves.
Void elves are great and beautiful in their natural form.
I wish high elves would have just been a separate allied race. That way they would have gotten their own unique racials maybe even their own unique physical looks to differ a bit from void and blood elves.
Like maybe they could have made high elves to further separate them from other elvenkind with golden skin?
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In an ideal world this would have happened, if Ion Hazzikostas’ team were competent enough, with the Void Elves being a new playable hero class for both sides.
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Maybe. They do exist, though, and that’s how it’ll be going forward.
That said, the thing that really killed the chances of High Elves ever being a playable race was the Helf crowd insisting that Velves get non-void options. You simply can’t put that genie back in the bottle, and now all Helves would offer to the Alliance is a slightly different nameplate, since anything else (hairstyles and classes) could just get tacked onto Velves.
No, they wouldn’t. Maybe when the Alliance was the dominant faction, but even then, I doubt it. I always hear stupidly hyperbolic claims about how high elves could “restore” the Alliance or even the entire game from people who grossly overestimate how much of an impact a fifth (sixth if you count dracthyr because of their visages) elven race would have.
You mean the 8 people who want the Alliance to embody every high fantasy cliché and are incapable of coping with the fact that WCII and WCIII were both over 20 years ago? All to pursue a power fantasy that’s not even a thing in-universe.
Most people aren’t thinking “You know what the Alliance really needs? An exact copy of a Horde race that’s even closer to the original than the one it just got two expansions ago.” In fact, the Alliance being predominantly composed of humans and human-like races while the Horde’s races have more variety in body shapes has recently become a criticism of the former here, so people have started asking for the Alliance to get more monstrous races (sethrak, quilboar, tuskarr, a tauren variant for some Light-forsaken reason, etc.) to mix things up.
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i just want tuskar for alliance. i will be happy.
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Imo, its too late for High Elves to help. Bliz homogenized the elf population too much with void elves, and then doubled down by allowing both blood and void elves to regain their non-corrupted original blue color.
High Elves are Blood Elves.
If you want to play one, the Horde is waiting for you.
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1 - Make High elves
2 - Make High elf only customizations
3 - Add all the High elf customizations to void elves, because why not.
This grief is as old as the game, which launched without playable High Elves, Quel’thalas blocked from travel, and Night Elves for the Alliance.
In the announcement trailer for BC, High Elves were revealed as a featured new race - for the Horde. That video is still around. It is explicit. Blood Elves ARE the High Elves as a factional group. They have been a Horde race for sixteen years.
Void Elves were the compromise. Play them or not.
Beat this dead horse all you like, but it’s not a pinata - no candy will come out.
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“Ain’t no point in having a dead horse, if you aren’t going to beat it!”
The options already proved this and they were successful.
Perhaps it’s the other way around. People do not believe that Horde-players are worthy of the race, that it was a mistake and needs to be reversed. And while this won’t happening anytime soon, the notion alone being active for over 15 years indicates a very strong following across several generations of players. Because there are only two possible scenarios:
- Old players still have a grudge
- Or new players do agree with the suggestion
In either case it’s an on-going issue and it did only stop after 9.1.5.
This should have already happened with the HMT in Legion but given Blizzard’s poor track record in catering to the minority faction, it’s clear that they do not care unless it has long-lasting negative impacts.
Yes. The backlash was real, after all. And people still have an immense grudge towards the one developer who created the Void Elves. Looking back, she might regrets it deeply and how much it affected the players. This is surely one of her biggest mistakes working for Blizzard: Alienating the player base, starting a vicious war which goes on for +5 years now. Not a good sign.
I strongly disagree. When the linked topics have proven one thing, than that this issue went viral and showed the worst of the community. 9.1.5 was a clear indication to undo the damage and no argument can change the fact that they got blonde haired elves and even two additional hair colors which were not part of the initial ptr release.
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Ok where’s the Alliance own High Elf Capital then in Northern Lordaeron that is near the Borders of Stratholme and Quel’thalas? Where’s any Alliance Themed Elven City then besides horde?