The mighty Iron Foe sought out for it’s truly unique proc of a chance to grant 2 extra swings. Then Hand of Justice for it’s attack power boost and extra attack as well. The question is… will these items be BiS or will the proc rates be low. Private servers have Iron Foe either Proccing way to much or not enough. (Although what is enough) Reading through forums across the internet there seems to be conflicting info on how much this Unique weapon should really proc.
We know that procs off of procs don’t work anymore other wise Iron Foe could RNGesus something but it has reported that Hand of justice will. So you get 4 attacks instead of 3.
One of the things that is so amazing with these items is you can get them early and they actually scale infinitely with your gear. Since the more attack power and crit you have the more damage the extra procs do.
So my question is will these items be heavily sought after and will Iron Foe actually proc a decent amount to keep this item BiS for a long while. Or will Classic tell us the proc rate is very low and it won’t instagib anyone or anything anymore.
Is there any “REAL” Vanilla data showing the proc rate of Iron Foe/Hand of Justice? Will we get RNGesus to happen and 4 attacks at once? I hope it has a high proc rate so it can be utilized for build diversity.
Well I play this game to theorycraft. When theorycrafting and Min/Maxing got killed off I stopped my Sub. There is no reason to play anymore. With that said I love testing gear and builds. This is why I made this thread. I have theorycrafted and made list of gear sets I want when Classic launches for different situations.
The best part of the old World of Warcraft is Min/Maxing something silly and having fun owning it up with that build. The joy of playing the game how you want!
Hand of Justice will be a BiS I believe for some situations probably until Naxx. Iron Foe will be out parsed by other weapons with higher dps eventually.
I tried to get my own HoJ for a long time because of this. Was it an exact Bis? I don’t know. I just had a really good warrior buddy helping me out and he told me it was a worthwhile one to farm for.
You have a point, for sure - but theorycrafting + Prot Warrior + PvP (especially WPvP) is pretty much Abomb’s whole reason for being, from what we see on the forums.
Let him live it up. I’d MUCH rather see a bunch of posts like this about game mechanics and BiS than a lot of ‘What flavor sprinkles do you like the most on your decaf coffee?!’ like we’re carpet bombed with in GD.
Mostly because you have everyone in the game chasing the same items, the same gear, etc. And it leaves no room for customization or variation. Of course everyone wants BiS gear. But when all the work is done for them it sucks the fun out of it. Not to mention if you don’t have BiS items you’re almost looked down upon.
On a side note: Felstriker with BF on a rogue decimates. Target clothie and it cleaves the same damage onto plate targets. Not sure which patch this was changed in, so I’ll be keen to see if that is in the 1.12 build.
Well they can’t be dual-wielded so the chance of a rng one shot are about the same as a dual-sword rogue with HoJ.
With windfury this will happen more often but it’s still going to be a “when the stars align” moment.
IE
-Ironfoe hits- procs 2 extra attacks.
-HoJ Procs- Procs 1 extra attack.
Each of those 3 extra attacks can proc HoJ again, 1 of those attacks can in theory proc Ironfoe again for a total of 5+ attacks with no upper limit on how many swings could happen.
Your chance of ever getting Ironfoe is so small I doubt this will ever be something you get to test. I’d say focus on a raid drop. You have a better chance of actually getting it.
Emp runs in BRD take such a long time and the drop chance is so low that the few lucky enough to get one will be the super minority.
I agree with you, hunting that weapon specifically isn’t woth the effort… However.theres alot of good drops off thaurissian so just tagging along to as many BRD emp runs as you can and snagging it if it drops is worth the time invesment aslong as you stand a good chance of getting something else.
Oh nice. “You can play how you like and use whatever gear you want, but you’ll still suck unless you have xyz lol gg”
Awesome. So you’re telling me you can suck all the fun out of the game and just make it entirely about a grind? Sounds perfect. That’s essentially like giving people spoilers to a series, or doing an escape room and knowing where or what the key is. “Arcanite Reaper is pre raid BiS for Arms warriors so forget about anything else” “Oh thanks man btw Mufasa dies in The Lion King”
Also determining the BiS gear isn’t always as simple as 2>1, especially in classic, which makes me think you don’t know much of what you’re talking about.
Don’t believe me? “Lol you’re a rogue and don’t even have Dal’rend’s twinblades? Noob”
Ironfoe is best on Off Tanks because your MT will be funneled the highest threat weapons by raid tier. Ironfoe is not that good for DPS as it doesn’t provide ideal speed or stats - Fury/Rogues go for your Dal’Rends please. The vanilla proc rate btw was like 2.7% IIRC.
HoJ may be BiS for some Melee DPS until BWL but for DW Fury and 2H Fury Warriors I’d go Blackhand’s Breadth and Diamond Flask all the way.
I’d MUCH rather see a bunch of posts like this about game mechanics and BiS than a lot of ‘What flavor sprinkles do you like the most on your decaf coffee?!’ like we’re carpet bombed with in GD.
