Ion: "We hear you!" Class Design Being Fixed in 9.0?

See, I dont find it enjoyable at all, and if i wanted complex rotations id play ffxiv.

I just want my Final Verdict back, or at least a glyph for it. That looked amazing.

I just want Felflame and Ember Tap back, we all want something back.

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Tranq shot is the only thing my hunter wants back.

pretty much. what a joke. the fact they are over complicating this says enough.

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Am I the only one who’s attention disorder is preventing from moving past minute 3 of this video?

eh. I’m fine with tranq not being a thing. Rather just have our baseline utility pieces be wrapped up into pvp. not having explosive trap for pve is annoying. I hate the separation of pvp and pve talents.

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LOL I want the exact opposite. Its why I play RPGs because those types of combos are platform style mechanics and NOT an RPG thing.

I wanna see a die roll, than my sword swing and a the die roll determines if I hit or not. NOT my reflexes.

Ill take Classic ans something like shadowbolt spam as a compromise.

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That’s the appeal of MMO’s though.
If I can “finish” an MMO then that’s a bad thing.

I log into WoW like twice a week currently because there is NOTHING TO DO. If you don’t like pets/transmogs/achivements then there’s no reason to play at the moment. I’m not getting better gear unless something McForges.

Being able to log into an MMO and decide that “this is my goal today” is what keeps players hooked. Once they run out of meaningful goals all that’s left is stuff that caters to completionists.

Because let’s be real, mount/pets/transmogs are 100% absolutely useless and in no way serve to better the game. They’re just fun side things.

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I want to hope they’re listening but I won’t hold my breath til I see it… 9.0 is a bit late to the party.

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They also regularly say “we’ve learned from our mistakes!” but months later they’re either doing the same thing or doubling down on the very mistakes they said they learned from.

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I don’t have ADD or ADHD but dayum…stop moving around. Get Jeff Kaplan in there.

many truths to this lol

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Actions speak louder than words. Ion is really good with words though, being a lawyer and all.

I don’t get this at all.

Fantasy is full of different types of character using different methods to achieve the same ends.

“Bring the player, not the class” is loads better than A, B, C, D, E meta’s because F-Z plus are all too “niche” in their niche’s to be valuable. So what if a Warrior and a DK have the same amount of mobility, utility, and dps if they are arriving there with different rotations and spell effects?

I mean, sure it’s awesome if you FOTM switch or play one of the perennial top dog specs but not if your spec gets passed over because FOTM brings more damage and utility easier. It’s not awesome if you play a spec that rarely if every gets any love or one that gets the NERF ICBM every time it starts to do well.

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Im not a fan of damage traps as BM.

I just think having my tranq on my pet is annoying as Hate.

They’ve also said, for like 5+ years that they are working on improving communication…

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I’m enjoying the discussion on this information, keep it going (and within limits please). :slight_smile:

Also just linking to the bookmark on class design:

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To give the devil their due this sort of exchange is why class balance and talent design is difficult. No matter what you do, you’ll never please everyone because everyone wants something different.

(not calling you guys out or anything fyi)

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Hi bornakk. Glad to see you around.

I just really hope they fix something and they do it right.

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If we could get rid of the GCD, especially for tank’s healing abilities, that would be a great start. They could flip that switch today if they cared so much.

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