I suppose it could be a problem if ALL RP-PVP players agreed on a certain PvP server (I have a hard time imagining this happening though) then they all left it for the official RP-PVP server 2 months after launch, then that PvP server ALSO lost all of the retail tourists… that would leave the PvP server chosen as the temporary home for the RP-PvP community dead as hell… so many people leave it. Itll be dead pretty damn fast.
There is? If they take data from vanilla to legion (or whatever) and find out historically 7% of players roll rppvp servers, then it’s safe to say that number will be fairly similar in classic. This isn’t hard to believe and companies use these practices for just about everything. This is why a lot of resteraunt chains will refuse to open in locations that don’t have a high population, but others (like McDonald’s) have a much lower threshold and are basically everywhere. It’s really not that hard to understand.
You honestly think they are opening up limited servers just because they want to use sharding? You have got to be s***ting me dude lol.
And this is why you are the worst devil’s advocate in the history of devil’s advocates. If they’re going to use this kind of data to justify a RPPvP server after launch, it justifies it before launch.
I wouldn’t put it past Ion. The fewer the number of servers and the higher the player cap the more justified sharding looks doesn’t it? Or do you really think Ion is just a benevolent guy who isn’t the least bit salty so few people like his direction for the game?
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That would make too much sense. Blizzard takes the “Make ridiculous claims then eat your own words a few months or years down the line” You think you do… but you don’t.
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How so? Do they know how many people are going to play at launch honey? Let’s just hypothetically say 100k players play at launch, let’s say 7% of players play rppvp servers. Now that’s 7k players total for rppvp servers. Now let’s say populations dwindle like they think it will and that’s going to leave you with one dead server.
These are all valid points, even though I think there’s going to be so many people playing classic they could get away with multiple rppvp servers but that’s just my opinion I don’t have the actual stats, just like you don’t. And quite frankly at this point neither does blizzard.
Yeah this conversation is over, you’re more delusional than broken. You actually think that he is doing this on purpose just because you think he loves sharding. Jesus… f***ing… Christ… child.
I support all server types, I think they are going to need at least 15 servers to start but probably more. I made a poll to see how much people are interested in classic.
https://marktatsu.typeform.com/to/xTYgLQ
I will be posting the results in a couple weeks.
For the Horde!
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People who would be trolling forums of a game will more likely be a PVP and RP player over your actual number. You know this is true, forums do attract the more “hardcore” so those stats are flawed. You cant possibly be basing your whole argument behind a pool on a forum. I don’t get it, how hard is to come to the realization that the limited info that we have regarding the popularity of RPPVP servers is not sufficient enough for blizzard to feel comfortable releasing them. Simple Blizzard doesn’t have enough information so they are waiting, one random forums poll isn’t going go get them anything.
EDIT: BTW I would love there to be RP PVP servers at launch. Heres a question BTW. The classic WoW updates on the forums gets more views than the updates on BFA forums, by 10 fold or so. Does that mean Classic will have 10x the players?
Hypothetically Blizzard has projected a lot more then 100k players. If Blizzard didn’t have projections and metrics pretty much confirming the ability to make a lot of money even in the short term they’d have never greenlit Classic in the 1st place.
J. Allan Brack stating they don’t care how many people play it in the long term doesn’t mean anything to the short term profits they expect to make from Classic.
Because that’s a convincing argument for anything. Go look at Ion’s face at any time he’s been on screen recently and tell me that is not the look of a man desperately trying to figure out why people don’t like WoW anymore.
Yeah, and you clearly don’t know what a sample size is. If x% of a small population is in favor of A, then it is a good bet that when compared to the full population the number is % is fairly similar. Yes there is a margin of error, but only in extremely rare cases is the actual % of the population vastly different from the sample size.
Source?
I don’t actually expect you to provide, you obviously aren’t even a relevant person 
I mean are you serious? Do you really think Blizzard isn’t estimating at least 10% of the total subs in Vanilla to come back? Or do you really think they expect .25% of what they had at the end of Vanilla to come back? I mean 100k is literally less people that WoW had at launch… it’s like half at best of what Vanilla launched with.
You know this is true, forums do attract the more “hardcore” so those stats are flawed. You cant possibly be basing your whole argument behind a pool on a forum.
Yeah, and you clearly don’t know what a sample size is. If x% of a small population is in favor of A, then it is a good bet that when compared to the full population the number is % is fairly similar. Yes there is a margin of error, but only in extremely rare cases is the actual % of the population vastly different from the sample size.
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that’s exactly what i’m saying. the population on a forum would be vastly different than the population overall. If I poll 5% of the population but in that 5% 50% are hardcore and 20% are RP players I will not get a proper “sample size”
… Those are two mutually exclusive categories of course you wouldn’t get accurate date like that. That’s like asking people “Do you like pvp or pve? You can only pick one.”
No but they are both categories of people more likely to use forums of some random website than your casual players or returning older players. Thus creating a skewed poll result since you are heavily polling a smaller portion of the population that is located on a site that will draw an inaccurate representation of the general populace.
The problem is you’re asking a question that doesn’t have a binary answer and forcing a binary answer. If you want accurate data you have to let people answer the question beyond your simplistic choice.
it’s not the question it’s the people taking the poll.
Ion doesn’t want RP-PvP servers because he doesn’t give a damn about anything but raiding. To him, a person that likes RP is a certain sort of person that couldn’t possibly also be interested in other parts of the game.
It’s the same mentality that has kept player housing out of the game: it doesn’t affect raiding, so what’s the point?
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Brokenwind, officially in 100% agreement with Dawnspirit.
What are you talking about? RPPvP people are already taking about picking a specific server to be on at launch day. Entire guilds even.
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Just go back to bfa, troll.
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So I think besides the obvious downside of having no RP-PVP realms at launch. He did say “lean realmlist” like at launch in 2004.
That will be helpful.