Nope, if tokens are to be instituted, they should drop from everything, and the amount should be according to difficulty. M+ should receive no extra consideration as the higher the key, the higher the iLevel of the loot that drops.
Alternately, m+ could be changed to the challenge mode instances of MoP and loot in dungeons, raids and WQ could be adjusted. The fewer timers in an MMORPG there are, the more like an MMORPG the MMORPG is.
Semper Fi! 
Ah yes, my opinion is invalid.
Excellent sir, why is that? Why is my opinion not as important to be addressed as yours? Is it because your 35 raid bosses killed in this week will not net you a 3 choice option on Tuesday?
If you did not kill 35 bosses this week then I think you should really express true numbers and not an exaggeration to attempt to bolster your point.
Ion should double down and reduce the loot even more. We donât need loot to have fun. Ion needs to put the complainers and whiners in their place and reduce loot. We need to go back to Classic era where loot mattered. 1-2 pieces of loot per boss and 1 piece of loot per mythic + run. Make loot great again.
Actually started reading the full article, and I stopped reading two paragraphs in. That person is simping enormously hard for Blizzard Entertainment, they clearly havenât played Shadowlands.
There is literally no reason why all gear can not be upgraded for valor and war forging was just an piece that dropped at 1/2 and titanforged was just dropped at 2/2
The only reason people in my guild are sticking around is because we sell raid carries. I mean people are paying for Normal runs still, itâs crazy. If any of us were actually paying for our subs with cash I doubt weâd be here. Seriously they raised the price of tokens/game cards because of how many people pay for subs with them. The whales are paying us sharks to get them gear and all of us to play the game at this point.
Those are true numbers. You can check my armory. I have killed 35 raid bosses and have not got one drop. I did have a monk in our run take pitty on my and give me a belt. Also I get three choice options but it wont be raid loot ill be taking it from mythic+ and ill get one piece just like the last two expac minus any loot from the raid loot.
This would be a bad idea for Shadowlands because there is simply no gear (no good gear dropping from PvE) to upgrade! And you would overcap on Valor while waiting for something worth upgrading.
If you killed 35 raid bosses and completed 10 mythic plus youâll get 6 options at loot though.
You realise the person youâre replying to is a Death Knight wearing leather gear from Legion.
I will get 6 options but i get one piece. The mythic+ loot is all that matters because it will be 10 ilvls higher, so that narrows it down to three options.
And its 35 raid bosses total not this week.
Bring back badges or justice and valor points.
This is a good point, which would in turn cause people with unspent, capped out valor points to be reset every new season that releases in the expansions lifetime.
Which in the end makes it a rather redundant system to have. You can be unlucky to RNG, but nobody is THAT unlucky. I am of firm knowledge by this point they are more impatient than unlucky.
I just told you, I am that unlucky. That person is me.
Yeah, I would rather have WOTLK valor system.
Shocking comment:
The team is listening closely to the community as we look to shape future updates.
With sometimes weeks going by without any blue comments and when they do post itâs a hotfix or correction to motion sickness, vice loot and legion raids.
Certainly feels like listening closely to me.
Those options could easily amount to nothing, though, if the Great Vaultâs best option for you was from the PvP row.
The Great Vault does not solve or compensate for any of the gearing/loot issues in Shadowlands. It is just a dice you roll in hopes for an upgrade once per week, and running more and more content does not always pan out in success.
Many of the Covenant sets are pretty below par for some specs though. The plate set for Necrolords is almost stacked with Crit and a lot of Vers; even at max level itâs garbage for Fury. I understand itâs largely meant to be catch-up gear, but Fury needs an absolute minimum of 20% haste or it feels unplayable; might as well reroll Arms otherwise. I really wish they would bring back Reforging as it would solve so many problems.
They are listening to the secret discord. Its probably filled with a bunch of idiots, which is why wow is in the shape it is in.
You just make the unfun ways less rewarding, and the fun ways more rewarding.
Itâs not complicated.