IO is destroying this games gearing system

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Yeah, I prefer the option of holding hands and chanting to summon our war-unicorns to help us through the plight of getting involved in m+.

Oh wait, are we talking about reality & things we can control? Then yeah, making your own group if people don’t want to play with you is your only option.

The fact that you don’t like it changes nothing.

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So its a problem that people want to know your qualifications before they let you in to the party? I’m just annoyed that its based off a damn Pac-Man score. Then again, no one wanted people into a H Argus group until after they paid 200K for an AoTC carry somewhere.

My hate, its that Blizzard has neglected raiders and turned M+ into a necessary evil. Instead of maybe allowing reroll tokens to have a 100% chance in raids, they’ve pumped the tokens price up and instead allowed usage in +. Oh, and the new dust? Well, keep doing a + each week because I’m gambling they learned nothing from last expansion and we wont get dust from raid bosses like we got the leggo currency.

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The current version of mythic+ is very different from the one in Legion that a lot of people did for fun, just as they spammed heroic dungeons for fun. That doesn’t happen anymore, because dungeons have changed.

I’m fine with not doing dungeons, because they are designed for elite type players. I have no problem with those people having access to tools they need to put together a successful run.

I guess it’s hard to imagine that there might be people out there with different opinions and perspectives. It seems you are stuck on the idea that there are only “people like you” and “those other people”.

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I thought it was titanforging and freebie heroic gear being given out on roughly a weekly basis.

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No, I am saying that handing out the heroic caliber raid gear from trivial tasks is a stupid idea. I don’t mind the world bosses and mythic+ content but when i can do 4 daily quests and get a 370 ilvl item something is wrong.

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raider io is just a website/addon that reports a number.

players decide who to invite.

If you don’t like that another player only wants to invite someone with deomonstrative experience, why not push your own key, then you can decide who to invite?

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Blizzards solution to all this would be nerfing everything :rofl::rofl:

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Exception of the Warfront set up every week or other week, you don’t generally get a free piece of 370 unless you are somewhere close to that already. Most my alts are still getting 355 or lower.

Not that I’m one to complain about something ever being given to me for free. That’s just goofy. Especially when you know its a flat out less then 20% chance to get something useful the hard way.

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Just get your own key and push it. That’s what I do. It’s tough but I have to rely heavily on the skill of my team by communicating affixes and calling out cc. It’s rough but that will get your IO up in no time. Clearing up to +8 in most of them will get your score up enough. It’s not always about gear. You have to know the dungeon mechanics and be able to react fluidly during the speedrun. It’s tough bröther but you’ll get there.

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Those players worked hard to increase their IO scores. Why do you think you deserve to just jump into +10’s by tricking people about your experience?

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Well this is a game, which is decidedly not reality. So you’re effort to deflate an argument based on it not being realistic is … not realistic.

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You aren’t entitled to ANYONE’S key but your own. Stop complaining that you don’t meet their requirements and start a group with your own.

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Weird, you say pugging mythic doesn’t get it done. Just pugged it last sunday on an alt 2/8M, no voice or anything.

I’m sure the other 19, were, like you tired of lackluster encounters and called it good on heroic zul.

Also, you don’t need to spam +2’s to get a good io, you don’t even know how the system works. It’s cause people like you that IO was developed. With the amount of catchup and free gear handed out, Item level means squat, You probably think 370 is amazing, but my 3 days /played DK is 374.

Good try tho.

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I agree, it perpetuates elitist culture.

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Yep, we aren’t people in real life constrained by set rules that govern how we can play the game at all.

It’s all imaginary.

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First line is “I don’t deserve a reply” yet you do it.
Calls me arrogant and elitist, hides behind an alt.

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I invite you to go back and reread your earlier comment. Is more like “This imaginary thing for a game is less realistic than this other imaginary thing for a game.”

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Why I hate mythic plus keys:

  • Friends not on when I am on.
  • Guild mates need different content then I do.
  • Spend nights in raids.
  • Limited time available for Mythic plus keys.
  • More time to make and fill the group then available time to play after I raid.
  • People in Mythic plus’s are generally rude and drop rather then complete the overtime key.
  • Tanks that don’t pay attention to where they force the dps to stand.
  • I’m the only one that kicks and then they yell at me for not kicking when everything I got is on cooldown.
  • This mythic plus system was meant to be a alternate to raiding. Now its just another thing I gotta to do in order to raid.
  • Tanks are hard to find because they killed the taunts. That just made a huge bottle neck in a already clogged system. Less DPS can get thru to a full group.
  • The Dungeon finder system in 80% groups of 3 DPS looking for a tank and heals.
  • People use this darn program to grade and score people and all it really score’s is how much free time they have.
  • Raiders no longer get that extra gear from the mission table but the mythic plus key people get it?? How is that fair? They can run as many keys as they would like while raiders only have so many passes.
  • I have to listen to people telling me I’m lazy because I don’t want to spam mythic plus dungeons till my eyes bleed.
  • The Mythic plus system is near impossible to get into if you don’t want to or cant dedicate all your time to it. It’s a all or nothing type system.

This slot machine they made is not fun… They need to consult Vegas for better idea’s.

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I actually questioned this one once, the simple fact that you have more opportunities for loot tend to make them required for progression it seems.

I honestly hear rants that satisfaction from this

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When IO score is weighted more than a realm first +15 achieve there is something wrong with the system. I was declined many times from groups in Legion for a low IO score, despite having/linking them the realm first achieve.

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