So then make a tab for advertisements in LFG tool as well, where it is ok.
Problem solved.
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you know your long post is incorrect - you can still make groups just fine in the custom tab - it is only mythic plus and raids that there is a restriction.
Ah, another area of player feedback for Blizzard to ignore, nice!
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It is very difficult to make a group since you cannot specify anything.
Perl is an MVP.
There are more than one group. The Tech Support/ Customer Support MVPs are handled by a different person who does CS/TS work. The WoW Community MVPs are selected and handled by the WoW CMs.
Perl is a CS/TS MVP. I am in both CS/TS and WoW Community.
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What’s interesting is most streamers are actually advocating for anonymity of the forum participants 
The few “takes” I’ve listened to from streamers pretty much all cite the very real possibility of constant harrassment/stalking of “Community Council” members by rabid/angry people wanting their ideas rammed thru.
One possible solution I read recently was to treat it with the same anonymity of juries in real world court cases.
For example…
- Player A would be “Councilmember #1”
- Player B would be “Councilmember #2”
- Player C would be “Councilmember #3”
- Player D would be “Councilmember #4”
- Player E would be “Councilmember #5”
^ this would probably eliminate most of the pestering/harrassment of participants inside the game and on the forums.
The participants would “just be numbers” to the outside world/audience, but as long as Blizzard has properly vetted the applicants/knows who they are I could see it working.
Eh… it could be argued that a lot of us spend plenty of time on the forums “anyways”. Personally I just keep the WoW forums “always” open in the background and alt-tab back out to it while waiting for a BG queue, afking, etc etc.
I don’t really see it as “unpaid” work if the dialogue results in player-chosen suggestions ACTUALLY being implemented in the game.
…on the other hand, if it’s all just fake for PR purposes, if it’s just an echo chamber of bought-off streamers and green MVPs circle-jerking each other about how great the game is and how everything is all flowers and rainbows… with regular/everyday players walking away empty-handed, then yeah… people will be super upset 
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What type of background checks are we giving these council people? 
I get why people want anonymity but I rather like transparency. I dont want btags and emails, but I want to know who is on that council just as much as someone would like to know if I was on it.
I can agree with giving everyone a “number or alias” though so we at least know who is advocating what.
Is there a timetable for the launch of this new Community Council? When will it begin? Will public viewing be immediate?
Sounds like the Tenno Council from Warframe.
Another idea would be to re-instate the Feedback Forums where we, as individual players, could provide feedback ourselves instead of having a clique of self-appointed (to a degree) applicants speaking on our behalf.
Granted, to make providing feedback easier for Blizzard to process, it’s only fair that some “restrictions” be put in place.
For example, there could be a proscribed format for posts which would allow Blizzard to easily collate related posts and related feedback. In addition, it would also allow Blizzard to weed out rage trolls and the like.
You could (possibly?) even remove the like feature so threads you may not like don’t get buried but would allow you to post your feedback on said topic.
Sure, it’s 100% barebones, but-to my way of thinking-it’s better to allow more player participation than not. Even if it means more work for Blizzard. But if the feedback is truly that important to Blizzard, they should welcome the additional work.
Another idea:
Once Blizzard has accepted all the applications for that year’s candidates, let us vote on Blizzard’s best candidates. That way, we can research whether or not we think they would make good representatives for us. But that’s more fraught with the possibilty of harrassing players than the 1st idea.
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Streamers not so much, but raiders? Heck yeah.
Literally EVERYTHING in game is optimized around players who have the best gear. Everything. That’s who they benchmark to.
Why? Who knows.
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Oh HECKA nope.
I wouldn’t trust forum votes on whether water is wet, to say nothing of picking genuine reps for the entire game community.
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Your lack of faith is not misplaced. However, there are those I do trust in the PvP forums to help get the game in the right direction. The first thing on our priorities being accessibility for casual PvP and that should be the easiest thing to address imo.
Unfortunately, I’m not sure trusting the players themselves to “vote” for own representatives is a good idea… as nice as that idea sounds on paper
Here’s what would happen with a player election/vote:
- big streamers like Asmongold would automatically be “gauranteed” a spot simply due to the sheer amount of votes their followers would FLOOD into the election for them… a GD’er/casual/redditor has 0 chance of winning an election versus a streamer
- regular/everyday players would struggle to get any votes at all, since a lot of them are “nobodies” that don’t stream/have an online presence
- all sorts of “you scratch my back, i scratch yours” under-the-table deals would be made by groups of friends/large guilds to cast votes for each other and pad their own vote totals… this unfairly discriminates against the solo/casual player without a huge list of friends or access to hundreds of guildies/community members
Basically you would end up with the dreaded scenario of just a bunch of streamers and “popular” players/posters circle-jerking about how the game is perfect and there are no problems/a bunch of white-knighting and no meaningful feedback that actually relates to the everyday player
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No its a better version will they cough randomly pick 100 people to ask cough the right questions.
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Can’t wait for all the Reddit karma-chaser types to get in on this and then suck Blizz off as per usual and nothing changes. If the MVPs on the forums are any evidence to go by, then this will end in failure, too.
Not like I expect Blizzard to actually achieve any real results anyway after Ion’s interview this weekend.
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You seem to think MVPs can talk to Devs, they can’t. Never have been able to. The only person an MVP can talk to is the Community Manager - who reads the forums.
I feel like people make comments without actually understanding things first.
The program will be different. How successful it will be? Don’t know. On the good side it will be transparent in that there is no secret forum and everyone can read the interactions. Unlike previous focus groups or feedback channels.
This needs framed and put on the wall of the CS HQ.
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Nice. They’re going back to what the forums were back in the first few years of WoW, except this time it’ll be an exclusive clique hand picked by the devs. Do they get Members Only jacket transmogs? This my friends is how you create an echo chamber and create the illusion that everyone is welcome in it.
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