A lot of players were overjoyed that “loot will be loot”. Streamers thought that loot being loot was going to be a great thing. But it was a concept intended to give Ion carte blanche to implement whatever he wanted to implement. And that’s what he did.
That’s on Blizz for using the monkey paw for every request. Even ones forum posters have made.
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So in other words, another forum category that will be ignored. Got it!
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As long as the hire and fire comes from the top so will the the ideas and solutions.
It’s why brands have trouble with things like streamers and social media. They don’t have control or influence over them.
So yes, voting would be a bad idea, if the plan is just to have a rubber stamp committee.
Enough that you can help people out with the game basics, systems, etc. It is nothing crazy. It is more about the willingness to explain something vs telling them to “go google it” and making fun of them. Paying attention to patch notes, changes, announcements, etc and sharing/explaining as needed. Mostly a good familiarity with the game features, systems, and resources. If someone does have an area of interest, they are of course free to share that too.
Some MVPs are pretty into specialties though. PvP, Transmog, etc.
This is the WoW Community NA 2018 list which is the last time MVPs were selected. Some had been MVPs before that, for years, but had to apply for the 2018 program revamp. You can see some have a focus, but many are just generally around and answer stuff.
| Name | Server | Area of Interest | Status |
|---|---|---|---|
| Byucknah | Agamaggan | General | Active |
| Crepe | Drenden | General Discussion | Inactive |
| Cyouskin | Stormreaver | Druid | Job conflict. Stepped down |
| Dillon | Sargeras | PvP/Arena | Active |
| Eldacar | Boulderfist | PvP | Inactive |
| Kozzae | Doomhammer | General/CS | Active |
| Lull | Tichondrius | Transmog/guides | Active |
| Mageski | Sargeras | General/Mage | Mostly inactive |
| Metrohaha | Firetree | Raiding | Not in program anymore |
| Mirasol | Mannoroth | TS/CS/General help | Active |
| Neall | Medivh | Friendship Moose!/Achievements | |
| Talbyy | Tichondrius | Monk | Job conflict. Stepped down |
| Xakopane | Dalaran | General | Active |
| Xanlorash | Area 52 | General | Active |
| Zinrockin | Kel’Thuzad | N/A | Left shortly after program start |
And that is the status as far as I know right now.
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Most likely is . We will know more when we see who they pick for this community council.
The reason why Blizzard wants to create a Community Council is simply because people have made the forums an unwelcome place for the devs to communicate with the players. It’s far easier to get a dozen players together who provide constructive feedback than trying to go through 100+ posts of people trolling, fighting with each other, etc.
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Hey Einstein , they are also looking for players to give feed back on the casual aspects of the game . So I’m thinking Blizz wants that feedback also .
I think what we are seeing is a sign that they don’t understand why most players who have left decided to leave. But I doubt they are capable of even considering what casuals might have to say about the matter. The group will be packed with people who have lots of links. They will talk about casuals and, without input from any casual, decide what should be done about the casual problem.
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I think a better system might be a Forum Section that focuses on various aspects . Call it a Creative Discussion Forum where there are sub forums like ways to improve PvP , Open World , Raids ,M+ and Game Play along with anything else.
Have it so the sub forums are limited in number of threads so that the posts go into the same topic instead of having multiple ones saying the same exact thing .
Oh and have it open for all to participate.
Thanks for the post. I figured you all were the ambassadors. You earned the text for being helpful.
I’d like to see more transparency, if that is possible.
They’ve gotten enough feedback about what’s wrong with PvP. But they can only laser focus on the top of the ladder and what affects or will motivate them to keep playing a bit longer, not on the overwhelming majority who never wanted to do rated PvP. Those players are abandoning PvP and the game, while devs put gold paint on cracks at the top of the pyramid and think that whatever they do that helps the top .1% will have a trickle down effect that will bring back a million players.
Does anyone think that giving a title to the top .1% of mythic+ rated players will increase participation by players who don’t push high keys already, don’t do mythic+ at all, or bring in new players to the game?
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There’s literally a mega-thread with 1100+ comments of PvP feedback on the 9.1.5 PTR forum right now, and it didn’t get a single blue response during the entire PTR period…
Makes you wonder what the “threshold” for getting a blue response is. 2000 posts? 5000 posts? 10,000 posts? 
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There is no such threshold. They think they’re right and people in that thread are wrong, so there is nothing to discuss. There are loads of such threads in the regular PvP forums, too.
They took to twitter and that toxicity they feared amplified tenfold. If they felt unwelcomed here that’s on them. This is their site with their tools and their rules, which they failed to utilize and copped out with the whole, “Everyone, but me is toxic” mentality after moving to twitter. If the employees felt that way, what chance does the council have?
So far you and Dillon are the only ones from my experience that does this. The others, as another MVP put it a while ago, mentioned you all left or were leaving because of the toxicity from the player base.
So the council overall is a revamped idea then given what you said? The focus groups back then I can only imagine were Method and those like them?
With a council you have a select few players who can follow a strict code-of-conduct and also present their point of view in a constructive manner infront of everyone else. They’ll probably be treated as harshly as the WoW dev team and will probably end up getting doxed.
Twitch streamers/youtubers who bash the game/developers and financially benefit off of it aren’t representative of the WoW game community. Asmongold made over $2 mil off of WoW streaming and openly insults the WoW devs and community whenever he can.
Many passionate WoW players feel their voices get drowned out by the negative crowd. So having a place where you can talk to the devs without the negative nancies/trolls blowing up the conversation is a good start.
Yes, it is a revamped idea but has a basis in things that they have done before.
Key here is that instead of it being Method and it being private, it is a broad group from the community who want to participate, AND they are keeping the discussion readable for everyone.
I think opening it up to a broader base is critical. Only a tiny percent play at the Method level. Many raid with friends, or do dungeons, or spend time crafting/farming/pets/transmogs etc.
An example (IMHO): Blizz should have given us player housing LONG ago… Yeah high end raiders don’t care. A huge number of the core base does though.
It is also really really important that they be transparent. If it comes off like a private club again that will doom it. So you see what the Council has to say, and also how the Blizz staff interact with them or reply. No secret sub forum.
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they want a list of your streams and forum posts in the application. Here’s to hoping it doesn’t turn into a sausage fest for the streamers.
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This is just for show, nothing is going to change. Devs are still going to do what they want. Just look at Shadowlands as a whole.
I would not look forward to having to deal with raiders and M+ runners dictating what content and rewards should be for open world content. Especially when those two “playstyles” will be the dominant ones in the 100 person “council”.
Yes, being able to be passionate and still communicate that without spewing insults and profanity like an out of control lawn sprinkler matters. That stuff makes for good “outrage” clicks, but not for constructive discussion. I know I don’t consider what someone has to say if they scream in my face.
As for doxed. Surprisingly, as much hate as MVPs have gotten over the years, people pretty much leave us alone outside the snide (and sometimes abusive) comments on the forums. I don’t post on my main so that also helps, but I have yet to be bothered in game. I also post with my Btag, in green, on all the other forums, esp Diablo 3 and D2R. Nobody even pesters me on Bnet chat. I just don’t give out personal info and my Btag is not an uncommon one so there are others out there.
I would hope people treat the players on the Council the same way. Feel free to disagree on the forums with that they have to say, criticize, etc. Leave them alone IRL though.