Introduce an arena point catch up system

WoW Classic Cataclysm Classic Discussion
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And make it so that when Wrathful season comes out, relentless gear can be bought with honor, as well as tier 1 relentless weapons.

The arene scene is abysmal this season. As well as the gear disparity is absolutely insane.

It’s kinda nuts that, if you want to play an alt, or you miss a season, you’re essentially always going to be fighting an uphill battle that you most likely won’t be able to fully beat until the season ends assuming you have enough arena points to buy a whole set.

So, i think one solution that might help the arena scene is, when next season, wrathful season comes, they should make it so that relentless gear does not require arena points, but instead, honor points so that the barrier to entry will be a little bit easier.

As it stands, your given the choice of buying last seasons gear for half off, or buying the current seasons gear for full price. However, if you have no gear because any reason. Whether it be an alt, your first season, or you took a break, catching back up is a daunting task. It’s also liiterally the epitome of not a good time even if you do get a full set of deadly + off pieces.

Since wrathful season will be the last season, if you are behind there is literally no way to catch up unless you do it this season. There really isn’t a reason to gate keep, or keep the barrier to entry so high to an enjoyable arena season. Especially since season 8 is one of the most raved about seasons in wrath.

And as far as the catch up cap goes. Maybe allow people to gain around 300-400 points extra for every week they missed. This is about the amount of points you would earn if you are doing just 10 games of 2v2 at about 500 rated. This shouldn’t be an issue and will also help people stay competitive, as well as allow people to gear alts making the arena scene a little bit more lively, even if it is the same players, just on alts.

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I don’t see how invalidating someone’s effort throughout an entire season is going to help PVP.

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You don’t see much, and thats okay. Thanks for the bump.

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Well that’s a productive response. So you don’t care that someone invests hours and hours into gearing their character only to have it completely invalidated at the start of next patch?

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I don’t do the whole song and dance for you anymore like i used to. Thanks for the bump.

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Right, well if you don’t have a rebuttal for the most glaring flaw your idea has, I’d imagine it won’t get very far. Good luck nonetheless.

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Oh i do. Just not for you. Thanks for the bump.

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I mean this is WoW in a nutshell even pve. You can be the most geared pumper one phase and next phase you come back late and have to work harder and do it all over again. Having a catch-up is a great idea for pvp. That’s one of the reasons why I don’t pvp anymore, it’s too boring grinding these 16 year olds battlegrounds over and over. Why does pve have better catch-up mechanics? All the hard work and hours I put in getting bis last phases only for them to make it even easier to gear and catch-up.

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No it’s not. That’s why he’s specifically asking for this – because Classic Wrath currently IS NOT like this.

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You can tell he doesn’t PvE, either.

I would avoid responding to bloom. He is a well established troll. I don’t mean by the avater, either. He might catch you off gaurd with his bad faith arguments, as he does remain civil.

Which is how i come to know how he is, because i’ve spent hours collectively in the past replying well constructed messages to him. However, once you see enough of his posts - the bigger picture. You will realize it’s a waste of time replying to him.

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Did you even read my entire post lol? I was agreeing with OP. If the game has catchup mechanics for pve it should for pvp as well

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All PvP gear should be purchasable with honor.

Since high-end arena gear is comparable to high-end PvE gear, the gatekeeping behind the rating is done so in favor of the PvE demographic, even if PvP suffers as a result of it.

Just another classic example of favoring one demographic at the expense of others. Such as no RDF, h v H BGs, +, + +.

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So can’t they just make pvp gear scale down alittle in pve? Wouldn’t that be an easy fix?

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We realize that PVE and PVP are different, yes? I’m not sure why we’re trying to compare them here and equalize them. They are different game modes with different audiences and consequently should be treated DIFFERENTLY.

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Absolutely. One of many possible solutions.

where I’m trying to go with this is, that they don’t want to in order to appease their pet target audiences.

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I think it’s fine to have to arena for the current seasons gear. Having a reason to que arena in general is a good thing.

I don’t think it’s fine that if you miss a week, you get so heavily punished for it, though. Especially true for a Player versus Player environment. Where one would hope skill is better than gear, but everyone knows that gear is equally important.

I just don’t think the barrier to entry should be as high as it is.

Once a season ends, that gear is, except for the beginning of the next season, out dated. It should no longer require current season currency to purchase it.

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All I want is the best gear I can take with me into BGs.

I’m forced to do arena if I want that, with a little to no chance at success.

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I think this is actually a really fair point.

In cata, Rated Battle Grounds become a thing, and for the most part, i think they have been really successful and in my own opinion, really fun.

I wish wrath had Rated Battle Grounds. It brings another competitive aspect to the game, as well as another way to earn points for the best pvp gear.

I’ll still stick by the stance that you should have to do some form of competitive pvp to earn the best pvp gear, but i wont be as harsh as to say it should only be from arena.

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I’m literally waiting for RBGs to come back. Haven’t touched arena since TBC. MoP was the most fun but Cata wasn’t too bad. Spamming BGs with randoms is not fun whichever way you put it, but having a dedicated RBG team pushing RBGs was prime pvp for me. Was going to try Arena in Phase 1 but at the time everyone was doing the Wintergrasp exploit or whatever it was maxing out honor within a few hours or less so I was already behind when the game started :joy:

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I think implementing something similar to the TBC catch-up mechanic would be nice. Being able to exchange tier tokens for pvp pieces. Could give lower rated players the ability to buy helm and shoulders as well.

On a fresh toon you could grind H+ for badges and tokens to grt you full deadly. Or raid ulduar and TOGC for tokens/trophies for furious & relentless. Of course this would require moving the pvp sets down a tier since triumph badges buy furious not relentless.