Interesting Combo Elemental Shaman Talents

Hi everyone,

I was testing out some talents on my level 60 elemental shaman and noticed something pretty neat.

if you completely avoid the lightning spells, you can have basically 100% uptime on castable instantts.
You take all the earthshock/maelstrom talents and then the earthshock talent that lets u get strong lavaburst. Then you get ice fury and that talent underneath.

Now every one once in a while you cast ice fury and drop skyfury.
then the rotation is

  • frost shock
  • earthshock
  • lavaburst
    Everything is timed nicely so frost shocks dont get wasted. pretty much all frost shocks and lavabursts are boosted (20% for frost shock 40% for lavaburst).

I would say about 75% of the time I can just spam lavaburst and earthsock until ice fury comes back up again lol (because of the maestrom nodes and the earthsock reduction node).

Its actually really fun. I think its more of a pvp thing. But still will be super cool when earthshock can overload as well (currently dont have enough points for it).

It feels a bit clunky with all of the back to back instants lol. But it is also really cool. Might be worth picking up that multi school damage node also.

Anyway, I hope someone can do something with this information!

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Out of curiosity, how do a bunch of instants feel clunky? What’s clunky about not having to turret? What’s clunky even mean? Are you sure you’re not just misusing the word? Lots of ppl use the word clunky these days to describe anything and everything and it’s just become a clunky nonsense word that’s clunky to use. Oh how I wish ppl would stop using the word clunky

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Hi Pequena,

Good question. I understand that many people use the word clunky. It kind of took on a meaning of its own in recent years that isn’t exactly what it intended to be.

I can clarify. You know how you cast a spell and then tack on an instant right after ignoring the global cooldown? That’s not clunky. Example, you are casting a lightning bolt and then lavasurge procs so you can essentially blast someone with a lightning bolt and lavasurge at the same time. To me, that is a smooth transition and not clunky.

Hardcasting 10 instants in a row and waiting for the global cooldown for each one feels robotic and I am constantly waiting the same period in between each cast. Kind of like a car stuttering or something. To me, that feels clunky.

I could be misusing the word in its traditional sense, but many words take on new meanings during their lifetime of use. I think this is one of those cases.

Have a great day and I hope my clarification and sympathy helped!

Ok thank you! That makes sense. It’s just become such a catch-all word it’s sometimes hard to figure out what exactly is meant

No worries Pequena! Also, although it feels clunky lol, I certainly like all of the instant damage and movement you can pump out for PVP!

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im am actually intrigued by this notion of new playstyle can u link a build

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Let me see if I have the permissions. Give me one sec @Infiltrate.

Here it is!

The Shaman tree in general is pretty flexible. I maximized the talents to be mobile.
Key talents for the lavaburst/frostchock/earthshock combo:

Elemental:
#These Talents combined make earthshock an almost permanent spell
Flow of Power
Swelling Maelstrom
Aftershock
Searing Flames
Eye of the storm
Ice Fury

#These talents make every cast of the trifecta (frostshock/Earthshock/Lavaburst) boosted
Flux Melting
Master of the Elements
Windspeaker’s Lava Resurgence

#The rest of the talents support the build
primordial Wave: more flame shocks, more maelstrom, more instants
mountains will fall: casting a lot of earth shocks, might as well give them mastery: overload

This is looking pretty close to what the standard build will be for single target. Likely go DRE instead of mountains will fall though.

Yeah I had a build that used that one instead. I am testing on the PTR and not the beta, but it was useful to have earth shock benefit from mastery for me. TBH, I don’t really know if this is a viable build, I have just been having a lot of fun with the ability to cast lava burst and earth shock 10 times in a row. I am actually considering it for PVP. But for PVP, I am almost sure there are better options. Thanks for the insight @Corbendallas!

Glad you clarified this isn’t really a PvP build, since not having Primal Elementalist for PvP is a death sentence.

Cool looking build tho.

They removed the wall from primal ele didn’t they? So it won’t be mandatory for pvp anymore

Did they really? I didn’t see anything official from Blizzard.

Either that or I missed it. Someone link if this is true.

I haven’t seen it, but I saw folks talking about it saying they did, so I’m not 100%.

I’ll try and find it now.

Here’s the thread talking about it: So apparently pet wall is being removed for elemental in DF

No confirmation it seems although I don’t know why someone would just randomly assume, so must be a source somewhere

Welp hopefully somebody has a source. If this is true then we’re just going to get farmed by rogue/mage per usual.

Fingers crossed this is the xpac Blizz takes their head out and realizes we need another defensive

Primordial bond lets you have 5% less damage while an elemental is out. Also, earth elemental increases health by 15%. I think that will be good enough for me to try this build. But I totally see your point about the primal earth elemental. Subject to change as usual :stuck_out_tongue:

Thanks for all of the feedback everyone :slight_smile:

im having tiqqle test out build ill reply with after

Shamans wont have a place in pvp without better defensives unless its just 1 shotting with ele blast.

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Ascendance seems to be pretty strong in DF which I’m looking forward to. Once doomwinds gets fixed it’ll make it even stronger. You can talent into ascendance where it gives 2 maelstrom every second then when you have 5 stacks and use storm strike (wind strike) it will also shoot out a lightning bolt. To me, that makes it seem like super high damage - again, once doomwinds gets fixed. From what I hear it’s not working on PTR.

Wow for real?! Tiqqle is so entertaining; I can’t wait to hear from him/ watch a video if this build is on it! Thanks Infiltrate.

Oh that is interesting for enhancement. I wonder about elemental shaman. I don’t think the same perc apply to the elemental set up I proposed as the topic of this thread.

IDK, they seem pretty fun. Are you referring to all three shaman specs when you say shaman? I believe resto will have a spot. Elemental and enhancement might need the one shot. From what I have noticed playing throughout the seasons is that elemental’s consistent damage makes it a strong choice toward the end of a season. Lol can’t wait for season 11.0 prepatch! We will be unstoppable. :stuck_out_tongue: