The in game ignore feature works great. If you dont like what someones saying just ignore them and you dont see their text anymore. I dont want any more moderation than WoW already has. If someone doesnt like you in groups make your own or join a guild with people like you. We dont need people policing chat ingame.
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FFXIV has a commendation system, and I firmly agree that it should be in WoW.
Award lil nameplate icon’s / frames for players at certain commendation tiers and reset them every year.
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A challenge for any GM. Spend two minutes on Moon Guard’s trade chat. (Alliance side)
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why would you want to ruin my enjoyment though? I am a mean and unpleasant person, forcing me to change how I enjoy behaving is really quite mean of you.
The issue here isn’t going to be fixed by any small change to game systems. An upvote/downvote system will be abused by the player base. The true unfortunate truth is that there are just bad people in the world. When you have a game that puts millions of people together you’re going to experience them.
Just look at Thero and Dhmain’s comments in this thread. The internet and it’s assumed anonymity will cause people to be horrible to each other for a multitude of reasons and there is nothing the Blizzard can really do about it.
I wish everyone could just ignore the trolls out there, but the truth is there are people that are already damaged, hurting or susceptible that are coming into WoW looking to escape into a fun world and leave their problems behind and when they meet these “people” that call them trash or tell them to kill themselves, well the damage will already be done before they have the chance to hit ignore.
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Blizz has most of the same rules. And they don’t just suck at enforcing, they don’t enforce at all.
Blizz is reactive as far as rule enforcement goes. They don’t do anything unless someone reports. FF14 is more proactive, or at least that’s what I’ve been told by friends who play that game (I don’t actually know that to be true, it could just be that the playerbase there is more likely to report, therefore getting better results).
Players in WoW expect Blizz to just take care of “bad behavior” and silently complain (or come to the forums to complain about the broad issue rather than reporting the individuals who are behaving “badly”) rather than using the report features in game or here on the forums.
Part of the issue, or at least how I see the issue, for the “non reporting” is that the report feature doesn’t always encompass what the “bad behavior” is. We have a such a limited number of options to use that often what is being done doesn’t fit into any of the available options so people end up just “ignoring” the offender rather than reporting them, which leads to the issue of the “ignore” list not being large enough.
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Fascism???
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It works both ways, it would just create more crazy versions of Rio to enforce social barriers. People need to learn humans will create these social gaps no matter what they attempt to create to break them.
I do wish they’d go back to the days when there was a lot more moderation and you’d often see GMs in chat, but it seems pretty unlikely at this point. Not sure why they changed their strategy, wow is definitely a much more toxic place than it used to be.
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There’s some truth in that, but it’s clearly not true.
M+ is exactly what the Old World was like. Spam for groups, travel to the instance, reputation as a criteria for admittance, etc.
And it has even more dire consequences for failure (loss of the key, can’t replace a lost member).
But in spite of that, people still suffer from bad groups, folks bailing on the first boss, “toxic” (to some) raider io behavior, etc.
When folks had investment in groups, the groups were better. But we see that even today, and it’s still no panacea.
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Warcraft would implode, and probably lose 1/3rd of its playerbase after the first round of bans.
Not that I’m complaining. I enjoyed that feature on FFXIV. It was such a big change from the constant onslaught of negativity found on Warcraft.
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There is a very simple answer to that question, money. It costs money to do that and when all the angry people get banned, then they stop spending money.
As for more toxic that it used to be, disagree. I think the world in general has gotten more toxic and WoW just makes it easier to meet these people more. They always existed in WoW, you just had less opportunity to actually run into them.
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Because it saves them money to have less GMs. If I remember right, most of those 800 employees that were let go were customer service.
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Oh I see if I tell someone nicely that they are bad you want rules that ban me. How about No we have a real issue with the game with everyone getting triggered as is
and freaking out when being told they are just BAD.
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I call bull on what they say. I see people do both all the time and no one has gotten banned. You will not get banned for using skills in main hub areas or jumping over/on things. I do it all the time and I’m not banned in FF14.
That’s the big flaw in a system like this. People saying, “Hey, your numbers aren’t where they need to be for this content, maybe you should try a lower key/raid. Maybe hit up a discord” is not bullying, but could still get you downvoted.
As opposed to “Man you suck, you should probably just eat a bullet” which is bullying.
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First of all - no, it’s just a game. If people can’t vent even in game they’ll do it IRL
Second - real moderators eat and want money, we have auto-bans based on number of reports isntead. You don’t need to pay bots
It drives people to talk with other players on a more mature level, than just screaming “U R BAD GO DIE” at them, and it works wonders. People routinely talk highly of the community behavior on FFXIV. When people talk about Warcraft’s community, it almost always includes the term ‘toxic’.
It’s a problem that needs addressed.
You’re missing the point entirely.
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well I would like to agree but since I have been playing for a long time even if your nice about your criticism you still face the angry rage response I know I have had it done to me more than enough now I just boot them out.
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Well that’s the hope for everything right?
Am I the only person that feels the whole world has forgotten how to talk to people like they’re you know…human beings? It’s all just a bunch of yelling and no desire to support the community.
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