Sometimes the layer isn’t as imbalanced as it looks but the horde are just pathetic and run away not fighting back. I always try to get a pvp raid going to take back quest givers, made some really good honor doing it when I can manage to get a group.
But if it’s obviously severe imbalance just layer hop until it’s something playable.
They control most of them. There’s usually one horde dominated layer out of 8 or whatever. It’s kind of amazing how imbalanced factions are on layers.
According to the latest population data, all pvp realms are pretty balanced. Maybe you got set in a bad layer one day. It happens like that occasionally. Doesn’t mean it’ll happen all the time.
Yeah if only the servers where balanced.
Wich they are not.
Living Flame is 60/40. 60 players are almost always going to beat the 40 players like it’s nothing.
Also, census data incorporates bots. And most of the bots on living flame are horde because alliance was faction locked for a long time.
There’s also the issue that the most active players are on alliance, so they will dominate power very easily and early on. This is because the players who didn’t feel it necessary to roll on the first day went horde, since there was no option for alliance. Horde has all the raid logger super casuals.
There is much more to a story like this other than straight numbers.
https: ironforge.pro population sod/?locale=US&realm=PvP
Add slashes to view link.
It’s actually better balanced than I remember it being the last time I checked, it’s 48/52. You are just getting on bad layers.
No read the post above yours, I broke it down a little more.
Bots are not logging in raids and that’s the data ironforge pro collects, so this is 48/52 discounting the bots.
Right but census add-ons will include those. I wasn’t sure which one you were looking at. The Warcraft logs are going to include the super casual raid loggers. As explained, those people don’t play much. All the active players went to alliance.
At any given time, there are way more alliance actually playing the game in the world.
It’s apparent to anybody who’s on Living Flame playing Horde. Statistics don’t matter. It’s obvious to anybody with eyes. And has been the case since phase one.
This is a good point actually
You are going to need a citation to prove alliance has less raid loggers. You are basing this on anecdotal evidence. I can use my own anecdotal evidence that completely contradicts your experience. P1 and P2 it felt very balanced, P3 feels very balanced at start except a few layers are lopsided at incursions due to people gaming the system.
I provided numbers, you are providing speculation based exclusively on your personal experience.
You provided raid logger numbers.
There’s no question here. There’s extreme imbalance. Any horde with eyes can see it. I have hopped layer to layer in the incursions and only one layer is horde dominated, and the rest are abysmally dominated by alliance.
I’ve explained why I think this is the case. But it doesn’t matter if I know the reason or not. It’s simply a fact that this is the situation.
There is a question when you haven’t provided a single shred of evidence and are just making up speculation regarding the statistics I gave you.
People logging are not 100% raid loggers, how do you know horde has more raid loggers than alliance? Because you got on a bad layer during an incursion and saw more alliance?
I can just as equally say there is more alli raid loggers because I once got on a horde layer with no alliance. I can also say it’s balanced because 90% of the time my layer is a reasonable balance but sometimes I get unlucky.
You are touting anecdotes as facts. Where is your proof that horde has more raid loggers? You need evidence to back up your bold claims, and you haven’t provided a single shred of it.
Right so you’re essentially telling me the sky is purple and pink polka dot. I know what I’ve seen. I know what every other horde sees. We don’t need metrics to see it. All I can tell you is that your samples are flawed.
It’s a bit like trying to prove to somebody in 1200 the ocean exists who has never seen it. Sorry, I can’t really do that. But we see what we see every single day, nonstop.
It’s not a question of just getting a bad layer. They are mostly bad layers. I can simply hop to each one and see it for myself.
I can literally say the exact same thing, but my experience is the opposite of you. I guess you are telling me the sky is purple. Anecdotal evidence is 100% worthless and there is a reason courts and science boards throw it in the garbage.
You play alliance on Living Flame. Sorry but 80% of the layers you are playing are not horde-dominated. You can’t say that with a straight face.
Giving you the benefit of the doubt, perhaps psychologically you’ve repressed what is in front of your face because you enjoy having the faction population dominance so much.
I never play alliance, I hate them. I have and always will play horde. So when other people’s experience doesn’t align with yours you are just going to kick and scream “you must be alli”.
I can say with a straight face, yes, many layers are balanced, and there is usually a horde and alli dominated one, both of which I get off asap for a balanced layer.
All right, well you’re clearly not active on living flame then. You can’t both be horde and on living flame and saying this. I mean, it’d be hilarious if that’s your claim though.
It’s the beginning of the phase, i’ve been extremely active lol. Your personal anecdote is your own, mine experience is the opposite of yours. Your anecdotes are not evidence.
I guarantee you are lying. You might have some alt on the server. Nonsensical.