Incursion quest area PVP disabled area

Nope, i’ve mained on this server the entire time. This is my personal experience. Like I said, anecdotes are worthless.

You can literally hop to every layer in the incursions. Only one is horde dominated. This is simply a fact. Your inability to process this is irrelevant.

This is not a metric of balance, the metric is the number of balanced layers.

There is also only 1 alliance dominated layer.

Sounds like you are just calling any layer that isnt 100% horde dominated an imbalanced layer, lmfao. Getting ganked and dying on a balanced layer doesn’t make it imbalanced.

I also immediately jump off the layer if it’s horde dominated, I swap to get to a balanced layer to pvp.

3-4 are obscenely alliance dominated.
2-3 are playable.

Given how fast you responded, there is no chance you actually checked. Those numbers came straight from your @

You guys are having the most boring conversation ever.

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Checked? I’m reporting back my personal observations over the span of the phase in hopping all layers. This has been the same issue since phase 1 in Ashenvale as well.

Understand that I’m not trying to convince you. I didn’t take a video and compile something to show you this. I’m just telling you what the fact is. I have observed the fact. I have tested it multiple times. I’m simply informing you that your sampling metrics are not indicative of the active player base playing in the open world.

You can go verify this yourself. You have the tools. Layer hop right now. It’s only a matter of you objectively observing or not.

I have done so myself and my personal experience is different. Majority of layers are playable, and 1, at worst 2 layers are completely alliance controlled. If I get unlucky with layers I can bet on my hop to be a balanced layer.

Both of our sides are anecdotal here though, anecdotes are not statistical facts and neither of us have access to the real facts.

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aka, anecdotes. Which aren’t facts. You’re suffering from confirmation bias.

Confirmation bias isn’t based on objective observable data.

Here’s a good litmus test: has alliance ever suggested that horde overpopulates living flame? I’ve never seen that complaint once. However I see person after person suggesting the opposite. Just a random coincidence, I’m sure.

And then I can go directly observe this by hopping every layer and witnessing the blatant imbalance myself.

It’s like observing the ocean and then going to an inland state where someone has never seen it before. And then having that person tell me it’s my confirmation bias that makes me think the ocean exists.

Not a whole lot I can say to that.

Anecdotal information is not objective, you logging in, seeing more X than Y purely on sight is not a factual snapshot of data to presented as final.

Confirmation bias: “the tendency to interpret new/old evidence as confirmation of one’s existing beliefs or theories.”
You already believe there is an imbalance, regardless of the data being shown. However instead of looking for data to support your claim, you are using anecdotal and incomplete observations.

Anecdotal evidence is considered the least certain type of scientific information. Researchers may use anecdotal evidence for suggesting new hypotheses, but never as validating evidence . If an anecdote illustrates a desired conclusion rather than a logical conclusion, it is considered a faulty or hasty generalization

Emphasis mine. SUGGESTING there is the imbalance you claim is fine based on anecdotes, passing it as fact is not, it is faulty. You are also not posting anything besides anecdotes to support your anecdotes.

The poster you are debating may be using anecdotes but they are using the best actual data available to them and that gives them the credibility that you do not have in this discussion. the difference between your guesses and his educated guesses.

You don’t know what confirmation bias is, so this analogy doesn’t work.

Move quest NPCs to alliance & horde bases. Solves camping problem.

Or maybe he already knew the numbers, kid

Oh really yet you were talking about CB being perfectly fine but if this realm was ur main how did you know so much about CB? Seems like you just talk out of your butt in all these threads lmao, back to reddit for you

BTW almost all of your comments arguing with the multiple people you do on here are full of your own personal anecdotes lawl

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Bro, you’re not the silent majority. Just shut your foolish theory crafting pvp butt up.

We both know the only pvp you do, is on the forums and in a zerg.

Literally 7am and there’s a zerg of horde camping the quest giver.

Wake up guildies, I need help pvping!!! Some moron on the forums said this is what needs to happen on a pvp server!!!

Its true. The first day was fine, every day since has been a disaster camp fest / gank fest / 1 sideed battle of garbage. Honestly we should just be able to disable PvP on every server at this point since they dont care about PVP balance at all whatsoever!

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Yeah Delvin and a bunch of others are just Reddit pvpers.

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I have 2.2k exp on wrath and PvP constantly on SoD. Sounds like you are just mad people disagree with your niche bubble of buddies.

Then get a group together and fight back. This is what you signed up for on a PvP server. If you hate world PvP but chose a PvP server anyway, you should probably work on your critical thinking skills.

And you have the nerve to whine about people strawmanning you, hypocrite.

Believe it or not the original vanilla team actually did “balance” WPvP by designing content in such a way that players wouldn’t be unduly burdened by it when playing the game, usually by doing things like putting essential npcs in guarded areas and diffusing content across a large area.

What they didn’t do was expect that random low level people trying to quest for essential rep content to spontaneously form and organize a 40 man raid at 7 in the morning against a raid group of max level corpse campers.

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There’s a ton of places in original vanilla that do not have guards. Besides, I think there’s guards at the questgivers now. Doesn’t matter because I always camped portal.