Incursion quest area PVP disabled area

Another thing that would fix the problem is restrict the level to 49. There is level 50 incursions.

Incursion wasn’t designed to be a pvp event. We have full raids of level 50s camping the level 37-49 incursion area.

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Did you not read the post?

You can’t be that blind.

That’s why alliance chat was just trying to sus out which layers were alliance layers.

Do you have a main ?

Lmao the irony, you were doing the same thing when the CB drama was happening, Delvin is the meme that keeps on memeing.

I guess zones should be gated in the same way then? My 50 horde shouldn’t be allowed to go to Redridge? Please.

What is with this playerbase? They want raids with zero challenge and they want PvP servers with no PvP. Absolute daycare baby lunacy.

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Everything is a PVP event on a PVP server.

Why did all these people roll on PVP servers if they don’t like PVP or its ramifications? The forums have been flooded with them.

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jUsT puLL uP yOuR bOoT sTrAPs aN fiGhT a pErMa 10:1

Yeah that would only make sense if there were other areas you could go to. This is as dumb as instituting one NPC in the world you can turn in marks. You have a fundamental misunderstanding of what PVP servers are about.

It’s not just rolling the dice and hoping you get the right layer to trivialize the other faction. Maybe bads like that. But real PVP players want some balance so there’s actual fighting going on and challenges.

whay i rerolled pve server this phase. its ridiculously badly designed to not even have the quest givers seperated by horde/ally

You selected PvP server. You did. No one forced you. You know these things happen and you picmed PvP server anyway. Don’t put words in my mouth – you don’t have bootstraps to pull up if you’re here complaining. Roll PvE and confront yourself over not be able to handle PvP.

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Weird.

I am not having this problem.

Yes, and as explained repeatedly in this thread, PVP servers on era work much differently. I imagine you are PVE player and just don’t like PVP players so you’re sitting here gaslighting having fun.

You’re obviously not reading.

htttps: ironforge.pro population classic Faerlina
Add the slashes to the link to access it.

Notice how Fearlina is reasonably balanced until 2021 during TBC? 2 years after launch, right after they made layering permanent. Also notice alliance went down after a massive spike in horde mass transferred onto the server?

So 2 years of balance, and then layering is permanent and transfer restrictions lifted, and people from smaller population servers enmass going to the full pop servers due to the roster boss.

Whitemane and benediction have the same story and you can check the data yourself, but you probably won’t since you ignore facts that are inconvenient for you.

You still haven’t answered to the fact that PvE servers became 1 faction at the exact same time too, which contradicts the idea that people mass transfered because of pvp.

So you’re cherry picking individual players who are looking for an alliance layer, and not actually looking at what % of layers are relatively balanced? I have news for you, someone who is OK with the balanced layers isn’t going to post in chat LF inv to alli layer, so that’s all you are going to see. Most layers are balanced and the silent majority is going about their day questing/pvping.

They don’t, they work the exact same. Outside of starting zones and cities, players can attack you. The only difference is there is no layering and smaller pop. Layering was a massive mistake, especially for pvp servers.

Incorrect. And as explained above, there isn’t one turn in for the most efficient way to level on era PvP; you simply just move to another area. And since that’s what SOD has, everyone and their mother is there. Creating a vast array of layers. And blizzard cannot balance their layers, faction-wise. So half the time you end up on a 10:1.

You not understanding this doesn’t matter. You not acknowledging this doesn’t matter. Your misunderstanding of the differences doesn’t matter.

I only play PVP servers on era. This has nothing to do with that. And most people who signed up for this were not signing up for what we have here.

lol this is not a difference in how pvp servers work. This is a difference in where players are concentrated. PvP servers have the exact same ruleset and work the exact same as era.

Gonna be honest with you, I’m even more confused than before. What is your point? You know what? How about this. If you had full control over this situation, what would you do? Because I haven’t got the faintest clue.

Yes they are concentrated in one spot due to the game design of SOD P3. If PVP servers were meant to be set up that way, then they would have put in one turn in the world for AV mark turn ins and one portal. But since PVP servers cease to function properly in said scenario, they didnt.

Classic designers understood that would be ridiculous.

You don’t understand this.

I always play pvp server, and when you think of a pvp server you tend to think of balance.

You dont think that the server could possibly be 90% of the opposite faction.

That is no longer pvp.

Thats how it feels on Living Flame atm.

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I’d be more willing to discuss the finer nuances with someone like you on a PvE server, who understands the difference between a PvE server and a PvP server. These crybabies on the PvP server don’t even know what server they’re on to begin with. Is it reading comprehension? Is it bad memory? Is it ego? What is with them?

I play on living flame, the server is 45/55 balanced. There is layers that are imbalanced, but if I get on a layer with 90% one faction, I autolayer to a new one and it’s probably balanced.

Layering is monumentally stupid though, especially for pvp servers. 5k server cap with the pledge to quickly merge legitimately low pop realms is what should have been done. Megaservers are against the spirit of classic.

Yeah idk, it seems alliance always controls everything unless im just really unlucky with layers.