Hi, I think there should be a drastic increase to the availability of Emblems of Frost. With the declining player base it’s much harder for new players, returning players and alts to get started with this raid tier. All the gear necessary for players to get going is there, crafted, defilers scourgestones, emblems etc… However the time gating from only being able to get around 45 Emblem of Frost per week doing daily and weekly quests creates a lengthy barrier to entry. The days of plenty of “badge runs” and togc runs to help catch up gear scores/character output is over. Personally I don’t see any downside to having more players active and running around in 251 tier + 264 vendor gear, it’s a waste that more people aren’t able to experience what’s already in the game without a 5-10 week catch up grind.
I have a vague memory of daily quests giving badges once Ruby Dragonshrine raid dropped to help people gear up… But I might be wrong.
But yeah, the days of badge runs and catch up runs is dead. We need to work with other ways to gear up
Any gatekeeping degenerate would say something about giving loot for free and how you need to EARN the gear or else you just don’t want to play the game and how not wanting to spend 19 hours a day playing wow ruins the game for everyone
Would agree you either need a way to earn more frost or the items need to be cheaper. It takes 19 days worth of dungeon quests to get 95 frost, the cost of some of the items. If you count the weekly, that’s -2 days per week, but still steep. The problem is that wrath has a FINITE lifespan. Once cataclysm gets here, all this gear = junk. The token system would have been fine if wrath was going to be around forever, meaning you could farm for as long as you want, and the items are permanent. But that’s not what we have been sold.
Why is that a problem if you’re only doing dungeons?
If you’re doing the weekly quest and voa and even partially clearing icc you should be getting 70-80 frost a week easily.
The fact that you can get raid badges outside of raid is already enough.
5 a day is fine, 35 a week is fine especially so if you’re not raiding ICC and then there’s the 10 from the weekly and 4 from VoA 10/25.
We already have a 30% buff upcoming in the raid to help people catchup and while badges could help I’d argue buffing loot drops in the raid would help way more. Adding 1-2 more heroic tier piece per end wing boss would be pretty decent (instead of dropping lower tier) as adding 1-2 more piece of loot would also be great a lot. Getting pretty much 1 piece of loot for killing end wing bosses for example in 25m outside of tier is terrible.
Sure who cares… people yapping about other things are the classic “but the effort I put on muh stuff” as soon wrath ends a massive break from everything blizzard related for me anyway…
They are still on the path of “moving forward” with 0 cares so might as well embrace it…
Bro this aint no retail
Indeed. Retail is selling catch up gear for $$$.
In all seriousness though, most main raiders already have MS BIS and semi BIS off specs with full 264.
Those are playing alts, just have to go through extra ~2 months of badge grinding.
“Just do ICC weekly to get 90+ badges”. Like pugs would take fresh 4k GS into their ICC.
“Do GDKPS” - Go spend $1,000 on tokens or swape for RMT, as an avg price for a competitive piece of gear is like 50k+ on Pagle.
So not only the acquisition of badges is rather slow, getting your hands on gear is harder. Unless you have a guild that’s wiling to carry alts…but then raids can’t carry 10 alts. Maybe 2.
I’m gearing up an alt right now myself. I got 100 RDF achievements in less than a week and got 245+252 trinkets and my first badge piece was belt for 60.
That’s it. I’m 5.1 on this alt. No one really wants to run RDFs. No one will take this one as a pug into MS>POS and very few people have 100’s of thousands of gold to blow.
At this stage, where it’s pure raid log, increasing the number of badges available daily is not a bad idea.
They cant really increase anything since the game has been out already and it is the way it is, its not retail where they can just go in and make changes like live servers
lmao k
Tell me you don’t play the game without telling you don’t play the game.
Bro you didnt even play the original wrath lmao , iv been playing since 06 … kid started in 2019 lol
I mean blizzard has proven they don’t care about authenticity at all in Wrath classic and they have already massively changed the badge and dungeon system from what it was supposed to be.
Not sure what is this retail thing is about… they put m+ in this version along with custom currencies and npcs. Bringing the “it’s like retail” isnt gonna cut it when such changes were made…
Weird flex but okay.
But you’re right. 5 daily Frost badges was in OG Wrath. It wasn’t increased in Classic.
Is your server having trouble filling raids? One issue is that you may not get a raid spot if you are not geared out like 4/5 tier 10 with some 264 off parts
The issue on grobbulus are all the non English speakers who just stand there & can’t understand anything , even in gammas it’s so frustrating jajaja
They need to increase emblem drops because the power creep in Wrath is absolutely horrific, and the community is incredibly toxic.
If you are a new player without gold, without gear, and without a proper guild, you might as well give up until Cata because the gear grind at 80 is the epitome of anti-fun. Queue into RDF, get insta-kicked, wait 30 minutes to requeue, get insta-kicked, and logout. You’re lucky if you can even get the full 35 emblems each week, and you need hundreds (along with Scourgestones) to get gear that makes you barely able to hold your ground in ICC.
Once RDF came out I geared up my 3 remaining 80s to 4.5k gs. From my observation more gear needs to get funneled into fresh 80s. I really think they should add badges to dailies, or do something so people can get more gear faster. Also maybe add the Ulduar gear in regular heroics so low ilvl alts can get more gear once their queue pops.
The best method to gear up is actually to get PVP gear (Wintergrasp makes this super easy) and BoEs. I’d welcome making pve gear easier to obtain because any new player who wants to get into raiding is going to struggle, and lots of guilds are going to be losing players as they either fail to clear, or successfully clear LK.
Fresh 80s can buy BoE epics off the auction house, some drop so much in gammas/betas they are like 20G each