I don’t think it would increase the win rate near as much as you think it would. It should be closer to a 50%, because hell you win some and you lose some. You are tilted by a self perceived bias, most AV’s I have played we lost even after turtling and defending. But as I said before Alliance is able to get in more games per hour where as Horde get 1 queue per hour so my experience is much different.
If Alliance goes on a losing streak your loss ratio is higher compared to Horde, hence the tilt. As was touched on in a previous post due to the high queue times all but the most try hard Horde have stepped away from AV so your chances of going up against much better geared and potentially skilled players is substantially higher, couple that with the Alliance issue of AFK bots and it is a recipe for disaster.
Short queue times for Alliance has resulted in more AFK bots
Long queue times for Horde has resulted in only the most dedicated (try hards) putting in the effort, ergo less AFK bots
Alliance PUGS are challenged right now because of the pre-made group abuse that was occurring (6 min wins) leaving many under geared and out matched because of
The Horde dedicated players are capable of carrying the under geared Horde players when it is PUG vs PUG
This is not a complete list nor is it able to be fully substantiated, again I am only human and do not work for Activision so my opinions are just that. The games I have played have resulted in more losses then wins, the fact of the matter is simple I greatly enjoyed even the hardest fought losses because it was not a blow out on either side and the tug of war was FUN!!
If you are seeing nothing but negative perhaps you need to look inside instead of blaming arbitrary conditions that exist on both sides of the coin, once tilted it is hard to pull together a win especially when said tilt infects others in your match.
I’m not tilted at all. Sure I’d like to have more even games but since Classic end game is PvE I couldn’t care less about PvP. I got exalted, I’m good. If I decide to continue PvP casually for a couple more weeks I’ll have my rank 10 gear.
What this thread was, is me letting you know that having your night or game experience ruined by queues is entertaining to me. Why? Because Horde find enjoyment in the misery of others and it’s amusing to see the shoe on the other foot.
I find difficulty believing you by this statement alone. You are generalizing the entire faction based on an arbitrary notion. Horde were not alone in the griefing that occurred prior to the release of BG’s, Alliance perpetrated just as many gank squads and lowbie farming.
Saying that everyone who plays Horde find the misery of others enjoyable is a generalized classification that oozes bias. There as a-holes on both sides of the coin, just as there are whiners on both sides as well.
Are the concerns raised previously by both the Alliance and Horde completely valid? No, but many of them were/are. #nochanges is a terrible concept and should be ignored, we can fix the issues by implementing faction changes with conditions that are determined by active population census numbers. Offer incentives for FC to the lower pop side to balance out the population. It can be done, it just requires a bit of work.
The premades won any pvp fight they wanted to win. They didnt lose/give up because they couldn’t win fights. They made calculated honor maximizing decisions.
Very nice, you covered all of the reasons this map favors Horde. I know when they put it in retail for that event, the first time I saw Horde in SHB before we EVEN GOT THERE I was like omg what is this?
In my opinion, Alliance spawning behind all of their towers, and Horde being able to get to Alliances south-most tower before even Alliance is just one of the big problems. Alliance needs an organized premade to overcome all the Horde advantages quite literally, so when we don’t have one, we fall to pieces with all the Horde terrain advantages. I use to do A LOT of wargame style pvp in AV so I was shocked when I saw how good the Horde side was in classic.
I Agree with allies it a horde favor map. Horde no better then allies at av. your talking about exploiting. we are doing it wrost then allies are. Blizzard change map cuase of this later on after classic cuase it was the right thing to do. Don’t say allies suck cuase horde suck just as much. Allies wipe us a lot in av and should be able to take IBGY easy but they cant cuase we spawn in cave and over whelm them. For our cave is half the distance that allies have to travel from Spgy. So horde should push this fix just as much as allies. If you think your that good FOR THE HORDE.
At least you don’t have 3-4 hour queues just to play one AV match.
Maybe the horde are just more motivated to win. Alliance get instant AV’s so you could lose six games in the time it takes us to even play one. And if we lose, it’s even more painful. I know for me, I go HAM when I get in there… Dive straight into the enemy zerg and fear bomb them, etc…
Besides, half the Alliance players in AV seem to be bots or just really terrible, so you have that working against you too.
That’s bull, I win wsg all the time as ally as long it’s not vs a decent pre made and on retail I’m on a 65% win percentage of 15 years of playing on alliance