the pvp talent only removes harmful physical effects on application; it doesn’t grant immunity outside of 100% dodge chance.
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In the spirit of fairness here. BOP used to pacify and require cancel aura macros, bubble diminished damage inside of it.
Magic BOP is a whole new beast and 10 seconds of immunity to magic that can’t be purged or stolen. Double the duration of cloak and freely given to allies.
I’m not asking for any changes on anything, just asking how people feel about them and used for offense kills. Be it shuffle, or 3s, or 2s, heck bgs or wpvp idc.
How do you FEEL about being killed or having a partner killed by a fully immune target.
i think my feelings were freely traded
Honestly, the tooltip of Veil of Midnight doesn’t suggest it’d make para miss.
Like at all, if you’re immuning para, it reads like a bug
This was already proven false since cloak made para miss. If para was bugged and dodgeable then evasion would also make it miss but it doesn’t. Therefore cloak is doing more than just providing 100% dodge chance.
If I can I’ll test it more later but it would be nice if someone can confirm you are unable to be stormbolted while cloaked or hit from behind as well. Personally I have never noticed anything going through it and it’s seemed to behave like a complete physical immunity.
edit: just tested and I can’t be stormbolted either. Is stormbolt bugged too or do we agree cloak is doing more than providing dodge?
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I’m fine with the immunity and attacking if there were more tradeoffs when the immunity ended. Make the spec much more vulnerable to specific attacks.
That’s another problem with wow pvp… there aren’t any major tradeoffs for mashing your keys other than making a stupid mistake with your timing. The abilities should have more inherent tradeoffs so players need to think twice what they are going to do rather than spam attacks and heals with one or two micro CC’s inbetween.
That’s basically wow pvp in a nutshell. Spam heals or damage and hopefully get your micro CC at the right time.
/snoozefest
That’s why when you have large group fights, they don’t feel epic.
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But we have to use a pvp talent to get it and will only really use those in double caster scenarios. Personally, I won’t use it if it’s 1 mage or lock and a melee. It also applies forbearance so it’s not without it’s penalties on whoever it’s used on. Not arguing, just throwing that out there.
100% bugged
Rogue isn’t OP, it just happens that only the most skilled players play the class. Kek
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if death happens i feel outplayed
The real problem with Rogue is that their defensives are offensives now and thats the real meme.
Cloak is used offensively to remove disarms every single game a rogue gets disarmed. Or even when someone is trying to peel the rogue off with magic CC.
It’s disgusting, at this point at least 80% of scenarios cloak is a " haha can’t stop me " button. Imagine if Rets bubbled offensive all the time knowing they can’t die anyway.
Trinketing during your stuns is a no-brainer. Just aggro trinket. You can’t die anyway.
Literally played lock a week ago trying to fear some guy off my healer, cloaks, tried again, step kicked me, then vanished to kick me AGAIN lol I mean ofc I could probably fake him but that isn’t the point here
What about intimidating shout
Yeah, being willfully stupid is your problem.
When shamans started to go underground, I started to question whether there were too many immunities. However, I know that priests and warriors who take shattering throw probably get excited when they see me bubble because they know I have nothing to save myself after they dispel it. I imagine they LoL as I go splat with forbearance up.
Because I do these things to rogue when they cloak. I’ve also had them done to me when I cloak. Which the post by Battlecruiser confirms.
Fire a bug report off.
Battlecruisr is just reading tooltips and talent descriptions. I actually tested the ability.
It’s pretty clear to me they just took cloak of shadows and slapped a physical tag on it for the PvP talent and it’s behaving the exact same way as it does for magic damage. Whether that’s a bug or they did a poor job with the talent description is up for debate, but the original discussion wasn’t about that. It was about what you can do when a rogue presses it and goes all in and none of the stuff you were saying would work.
Why is it so hard for people to just go “oh I didn’t know that thanks” and instead they have to double down on incorrect takes? It’s ok to be wrong/mistaken on things the only real problem is when you refuse to admit it.
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Because you’re the one with the incorrect take ironically.
Very clear that if the ability does work like that it shouldn’t and is a bug. Which I doubt b/c I’ve gone into a para 2s into cloak. You can’t use it in the same second cloak is used.
With no video from either of us why is your ‘testing’ more valid than mine btw? Oops.
OK. Please quote what I said that is incorrect and explain to me how it is. Trust me I am fine with being wrong about something and will admit it. I just genuinely don’t know what it is at this point. Help me out.
the bug, if it exists is cloak providing immunity for its duration. What I’m saying is that after 1-2s that immunity isn’t present anymore for things like para. It’s never present for things like Asphix.
idk man I’m not making a video. Anyone can test it pretty easily and I did not cloak as soon as para was pressed. I’m guessing you think that matters due to your “diminishing resistance” belief?
If you want I will even get on my rogue and test it with you right now. Just let me know.