Immunities

Why are there so many immunities in the game now? Back in the day it was hunter, pally, and mage, and they couldn’t do offensive actions while they were up. Why is the list growing, and why are there “pseudo-immunes” now?

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Which ones?

I’m just not a fan of all the freedoms. :dracthyr_a1:

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Shaman turn into a mole. Holy early angel. Netherwalk. Tranq. Any class that flies up into the air.

Like what are we doin? Did the damage power creep become so absurd that it warrants so many panic buttons?

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This was change to giga tree, they can take damage just cant be cc’d

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Was wondering how this came about. Least we can scratch Tranq off the list. But it still begs the question of why more immunities are being added and why we haven’t gotten new ways to kill immunities.

Kinda necessary in the current game, damage is insane. Half the specs in the game can 50-0 someone in a global.

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I agree, paladin and mage should be the only ones plus both have counterplay. Remove burrow, netherwalk, and evokers timestop

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Isn’t this why they put ability templates into the game for PvP? Can the devs just not be bothered to adjust them? I remember back in Legion Serenity was like a flat 50% amp for WW, but Blizz cut it down to 18% for PvP. My current vivifies heal for like 600k-800k less in PvP than it does in borderline equivalent gear in PvE.

Templates? Like, pvp modifiers? There’s a knob in the 2 piece trinket bonus for hp and throughput.

I hate this button so much. Netherwalk is kind of being removed in midnight too

because the game is max zug now

yes they’ve been power-creeping the immunities

time stop cooldown was 1.5 min when evoker came out now its 45 sec

netherwalk and rng blur

burrow

ice block

turtle

bop bubble(removing the penalties, nerfing forbearance, and lowering the cooldown)

ams and now team ams

cloak with the bleed removal/free evasion(nerfed now)

evasion buffed to 100% dodge chance(old change tbf)

die by the sword

spirit of redemption being an active button instead of a death proc

formerly rdruid tranq

alter time in an indirect way

pre-removal shadowy duel in an indirect way

and if we are counting huge absorbs, then cocoon, karma, and warlock shield. not to mention dh/priest jumping up into the air when vs melee opponents. tbf many melee are ranged now.

its annoying in battlegrounds when target a becomes immune so you switch to target b who is also immune, so you switch to target c and they are immune too.

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Nah. The tuning Blizz specifically does for some abilities in PvP. Not the 2pc trinket bonus. Though, the 2pc bonus would be more effective for broad spectrum damage tuning in PvP.

pvp modifiers?

It’s funny that that is not even all of them. :sob:

Peaceweaver - Group 2s Immunity
Fade
IBF - Stun immunity
Lichborne - fear, sleep, etc.
Death Charge - Immune to push backs, slows, etc.
Ancient of Lore - Immune to all CC
So many more…

Then it’s dealing with stuff like searing light. Between all the immunities, silences, and everything else, sometimes you might as well just AFK until it’s all over. That happens a lot on my sham.

Which remind me, it’s like I was trying to CC a disc the other day on my enhance.

Hex > Death
Hex > Fade
Hex > Death
Hex > Meld

Gets tricky. :slight_smile:

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That’s been around since Legion.

Nah man, specific PvP tuning, not modifiers.

Its a cool concept but it feels like its up all the time. I hate it too

We’ve been mad about that for mage and mm hunter this entire season.

I think we’re referring to the same thing but using different terminology. But yea