Imagine if the first day of BFA, you had to pick a covenant which would determine what corruptions, essences and azerite traits you were able to get

[Timbaeslice-frostmourne]

@Felspark-icecrown

buahaha, you mean like you trying to tell developers and this forum how to make and play this game? the top 1-2% “cutting edge” are a minority of the player base. All this based on tuning and abilities that you do not know. There is absolutely no entire raid that will make 100% use of the venthyr teleport, or any other covenant ability. there will be positionary fights, there will be soak fights, patchwerk fights etc. You don’t know. You’re just being toxic and bullying others to do what you want based on the preaching of 1 youtuber. again, you are a dwarf shaman, no teleport racial or class ability and yet you still remain unbenched.

Don’t you think maybe you’re out of your element trying to discuss what mythic guilds will or won’t do?

[Wild-velen]

@Lunarblood-steamwheedle-cartel

Why not just let a Druid be a Druid and when he’s Bear form he’s a tank when he’s cat form he’s a dps when he’s Moonkin form he’s dps when he’s not and even when he is he’s healer

I actually love this idea, NGL. It would be so convenient!

[Tjphess-zuljin]

We thought BfA was wild with throwing 3 systems at us

Hits 60 in Shadowlands SUP STINKER HERE’S 8 SYSTEMS IN YOUR FACE

Great.

[Minuette-zuljin]

Mythic guilds are dying out for a reason. Hopefully Blizz will go back to one difficulty, with long and lore filled dungeons. And expac with another Blackrock Mountain would be great.

[Timbaeslice-frostmourne]

@Minuette-zuljin

Mythic guilds are dying out for a reason

Source for this?

@Minuette-zuljin

Hopefully Blizz will go back to one difficulty, with long and lore filled dungeons.

Yeah because the RP servers dying out shows that people want more lore filled dungeons.

[Tjphess-zuljin]

Classic. That’s exactly what you’re looking for.

[Timbaeslice-frostmourne]

Remember how those lore filled dungeons were cleared in 40 minutes?

God i hope we can go back to them, 40 minutes of prog sounds so tight!

Actually I agree, let’s make Mythic the only difficulty, LFR, Normal and heroic don’t need to exist anymore.

Have fun trying to do any content.

[Timbroslice-barthilas]

https://www.strawpoll.me/20539850

So it turns out that a lot more people than 1% of the population will be picking their strongest covenant.

With the echo chamber of the general forums shattered, who will rise up from the ashes and continue the fight for pro-restrictions?

[Aveldruid-frostmourne]

Aaannnnnddd crickets… Hahaha

[Liyo-whitemane]

honestly if you or whoever you are progressing with relies on a covenant to push yall are trash LOL, efficiency doesn’t mean you have to have it. Only THE TOP 1% will notice the true pros and cons covenants deliver. 99% of the population in WoW can just like every website says PLAY WHAT U WANT.

I cant wait to pick the covenant I find the coolest. Because a stupid passive or one single ability has come no where close to carrying me. An edge sure, but problem solving always overcomes inconvenience.

[Aveldruid-frostmourne]

@Liyo-whitemane

honestly if you or whoever you are progressing with relies on a covenant to push yall are trash LOL, efficiency doesn’t mean you have to have it. Only THE TOP 1% will notice the true pros and cons covenants deliver. 99% of the population in WoW can just like every website says PLAY WHAT U WANT.

Haha
Oh wait you’re serious? Let me laugh harder then hahaha hahaha!

[Zoumz-zuljin (Zoumz)]

yea you should definitly play ret paladin in Classic to prove how problem solving overcomes inconvenience.

Fact is there is no really good reasons to make gameplay worse for the sake of covenants, there is no reason to have to make 4 characters to be able to experience all the new toys that shadowlands will add to your class, and people can care about their efficiency

or just have fun being able to make choices on the go and innovate more often. Instead of being locked in a build you can’t change and taking the best one that work the best most often.

[Liyo-whitemane]

Absolutely. Only players who blame lag when they mess up make posts like this.

I genuinely hope you find a way to get good rather than hopelessly complain about a new mechanic being introduced.

Or you could just wait a bit and jump on the next meta bandwagon that props up inevitably and still suck and whine

[Aveldruid-frostmourne]

OK dude

[Bighoffie-tichondrius]

Why do I need to be the best player in the game to want to be the best player I can be? Why are these mutually exclusive?

[Astroworld-turalyon]

@Liyo-whitemane

I genuinely hope you find a way to get good rather than hopelessly complain about a new mechanic being introduced.

Well, he’s a CE raider. If he sucks then I don’t even want to know what that makes me

[Aveldruid-frostmourne]

Yea that’s why I just said OK dude lol.

I don’t think less of people who done push higher level content just like I don’t think more of people who do higher level content. As long as people are having fun in game then good for them.

Where I might pay attention to what content people do is when discussing something that disproportionately impacts a specific population. Eg covenants negatively impact Higher level players especially ones who do m+ and raiding (or pvp I just don’t do it myself so seldom think about it). If someone who only does LFR says that they won’t stop them doing content how they are now so they are fine then that doesn’t really mean anything in the context it is usually being discussed so I don’t give their opinion much weight.

Side note. I have yet to see any ce players saying covenants as they are now are a good idea.

[Liyo-whitemane]

Never implied that bud. Your basically asking the developers to give everyone the same thing and be completely equal in a game all about diversity and uniqueness.

Just for a second, sacrifice the idea about the best, and just have the most fun you can. If you can’t have fun because of diversity, then thats a personal problem you have to attend to.

[Aveldruid-frostmourne]

@Liyo-whitemane

just have the most fun you can

I can’t because I don’t get to play with all the cool new sparkly pixels they are adding to the game.

[Liyo-whitemane]

sounds like a personal problem lol