Im tasking you stranger, IN FIXING FACTION IMBALANCE!

No.

There’s constant whining about high elves because there are a few extraordinarily loud people who want them, and then the usual crowd of people who either think it’s a good enough idea to reply with a “mee too” post and a ton of people who wouldn’t say “no” to them.

The positivity thread (the spam collector) is primarily the really, really loud folks.

…and I am so glad I could mute that damn thing.

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Thank you.

Obviously Blood Elves and High Elves are different Vasdin!

I mean. Look! “Blood” and “High” are two completely different words!

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I mean…obviously. /s

If you go to that thread and look at the frequent posters you will see no one has posted more than 10% of comments which is lower than many threads (including this one).

I think we already have enough elves and the horde is waiting for people who want high elves but trying to claim that there isn’t a large group that want them is just factually incorrect and Idk why anyone would try to assert that.

Obviously there are people who Want them. No one is refuting that.

There are also people who want Murlocs.
There are people who want LFR gone.
There are people who want Blizzard to give a damn about PvP.

None of these things have anything to do with the faction imbalance, and changing them wouldn’t fix the faction imbalance.

You are arguing semantics because you don’t want to be wrong, while entirely forgetting about the topic at hand.

It isn’t a large group because far less than 1% of the playerbase post on the forums.

There are less than a thousand forum regulars. You are not the majority of anything.

Are you familiar with statistical sampling? It’s like when people take political polls they don’t actually ask every registered voter their opinions.

This is a thread about fa room balance and what would make people swap to alliance.

In regards to high elves yo said

And in the very same post you said

Okay… Here’s the run down.

High Elves are already playable. They’re on the Horde.

Most people who want to play as a High Elf, are already playing a High Elf, they are on the Horde.

Adding playable high elves to the Alliance would appeal to a very small percentage of people, that are so diehard alliance they will literally never swap. It would primarily appeal to existing alliance players, that want to play as a Horde race. But still be on the Alliance for some reason.

Now bear with me here: This is where it gets tricky.

If we’re going to be giving the Alliance a Horde race to play as: Why wouldn’t you just remove the faction Divide?

Then that small group of people could play as High Elves, and still play with their friends, and role play with other alliance players, as an Alliance high elf.

As a double whammy, this would also get rid of the imbalance between Horde and Alliance raiding guilds, since all of the guilds would have access to all of the races. People would be able to play any race they wanted, not be separated from their friends, and still be part of the combined raider population.

Further still: It would remove bickering about which faction gets what every single patch.
Separate will NEVER be equal. That’s just human nature.

For high end raiding content for less serious people yes.

So last I checked like 139 horde guilds had cleared mythic Nyalotha and 19 Alliance guilds had cleared it.

So those of us who want to mythic raid on low pop servers struggle against the roster boss.

We could cross realm mythic raid if 100 of each faction clear.

So you can see there’s a severe faction imbalance here.

My main thing is I’d like to mythic raid cause there’s not much for me to do on my main now, but roster boss is hard. Also I don’t want to transfer to a high pop server for latency reasons.

The forums don’t like sampling. Believe me, I’ve tried that.

And even then, forumgoers aren’t significant enough of a sample. On top of which we bias one another through band-wagoning all the freaking time.

Give Alliance absolutely nutter broken racials for a good while, give them better allied races too.

This only opens up the Imbalance in the opposite direction.

There are only 2 permanent solutions. and one is clearly better.

1: Blizzard strictly enforces a perfect 50/50 split, And makes sure that every single patch gives mirrored content and goodies to both sides, forever.

or 2: Blizzard gets rid of the faction divide, and let’s people enjoy whatever content they want, while not being separated from existing raiding guilds, friends, or content they enjoy doing.

Eventually, but they flatten the curve with racials when it approaches 50/50. Blizzard has made it clear they don’t want to get rid of faction divide.

Blizzard has also made it clear that they are closeminded about change

Blizzard has also made it clear we were never getting Vanilla Servers

Blizzard also made it clear the Vulpera weren’t going to be playable

Blizzard also made it clear that the goblin cannon would fire before the end of BFA.

So when blizzard publicly states that they think the faction divide should stay, I don’t really give a damn.

  1. As you said, its mostly an issue at mythic raiding level, heroic somewhat. I don’t think either of those are so important as to change the entire premise of warcraft such that orc and humans should hold hands now. Get out of here with that!

Server populations are the the main root of the problem. Its not just connect more small realms. Its realms such as mine with a tiny alliance population (there’s not even a guild heroic kill in nyalotha yet). And its not like you can just realm connect Stormrage and A52 without consequence for the sake of Alliance on A52 and Horde on Stormrage. Now you have to consider economy, where you are at a severe disadvantage to the walmart/amazon type operations being ran to try to sell anything.

Need a solution across the board, and not just here or there, because the dynamic will just shift with new low pop servers. And Blizz isn’t quick to respond. Its like spraying weed killer for these weeds, when new ones will pop up.

Allied races are another issue. I can’t believe people still think racials matter to the extent they used to. Zandalari and Vulpera, or KulTiran and diapers? hmm… let me think…

I feel Blizz owes Alliance a cool allied race.

You are now banned from the forums because I said so (seriously, I said so earlier in the thread) because this suggestion makes me rage.

The faction divide is core to the game experience. Go play FF14 if you want to play with everyone else.

There are games for that.

They are NOT WoW.

WoW is a game, who’s plot is integrally tied to teaming up against all odds.

WoW is about working together, in gameplay and story.

WoW is based on Warcraft 3, Which ended with all the races of Azeroth standing together as one, against archimonde.

We constantly team up every single expansion, our leaders literally hold hands and attend each others funerals.

So… no. WoW is exactly the game for that.

Final Fantasy has nothing to do with this. whether it’s a better game or a worse game has nothing at all to do with factions.

This is going too far. However, there are ways to make having a majority of the playerbase into enough of a disadvantage that it counteracts the advantages gained.

I think they should look into them.

Start with removing merc mode completely from PvP.

Continue with adding a queue to warmode along with a bit more structure and a few more rules to prevent people from turning it on just because there aren’t any disadvantages to not turning it on.

Add new features to PvE that turn being on the populous faction into a disadvantage of a sort.

Then remove the cost from faction transfers from high pop to low.

Make roughly even sides into the most optimal way to play the game and that’s what the playerbase will move towards.

WITH YOUR FACTION.

WITH YOUR FACTION.

IN ONE MISSION OUT OF FIFTY.

Poor writing is no excuse to get rid of one of the core franchise pillars.

…and that’s what the constant team-ups are: Poor writing.

Only if you completely miss every. single. point to the damn game.

Removing factions will make WoW into a worse game because WoW was built to have factions.

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