I'm stuck on Tyrande's bizarre, vague line to Calia in the SL entry quest at the Frozen Throne

[Camerina-amanthul]

@Irenaus-wyrmrest-accord

Believe whatever you want about the other stuff. Just making it clear you were wrong about saying there aren’t Night Elves saying they are done with the war and ready to stop fighting.

Doesn’t excuse the fact that they want the Banshee dead and the Horde annihilated.

[Irenaus-wyrmrest-accord (Irenaus)]

I don’t really care to argue with headcanon much as long as you accept what you were explicitly wrong about what was said before.

[Pellex-hyjal (Pellex)]

@Izhkarl-khazgoroth

To call him forsaken implies he is the part of the forsaken faction and shares their philosphical/ontological viewpoints, which he doesn’t.

@Irenaus-wyrmrest-accord

Blizzard makes these terms. They are at liberty to apply them how they want.

I think it is fair to say that Blizzard isn’t doing anyone any favors by muddying the meaning of “Forsaken.” It just creates unnecessary headaches and arguments.

[Karserd-ragnaros (Karserd)]

@Pellex-hyjal

I think it is fair to say that Blizzard isn’t doing anyone any favors by muddying the meaning of “Forsaken.” It just creates unnecessary headaches and arguments.

dont you know pellex? having your fanon tearing each other is the best way for them to keep interest in your product /s

if its worth anything we already know their stance is that previous lore is to “enhace” their stories not to limit their creativity, this creates tedious arguments since the lore is not established properly.

[Camerina-amanthul]

@Irenaus-wyrmrest-accord

I don’t really care to argue with headcanon much as long as you accept what you were explicitly wrong about what was said before.

Now you’re just being a troll.

[Irenaus-wyrmrest-accord (Irenaus)]

No, I stated what my intent for the discussion was. What you were incorrect about, not about what you wish to believe. I can requote the discussion again if needed.

[Camerina-amanthul]

@Irenaus-wyrmrest-accord

I can requote the discussion again if needed.

Go ahead. Requote.

[Irenaus-wyrmrest-accord (Irenaus)]

@Irenaus-wyrmrest-accord

@Ferlion-proudmoore

There are already Night Elves in game, soldiers in Boralus, that are saying they are done with the war and ready to stop fighting.

@Camerina-amanthul

That’s incorrect. The war may be over, but the fighting hasn’t stopped.

@Madhronir-wyrmrest-accord

That is not incorrect, he is stating a fact that is true, Some night elf NPCs have that specific dialogue about being tired of fighting in this war.

@Camerina-amanthul

That’s only Shandris. The night elves only care about vengeance against the Banshee.

@Camerina-amanthul

Just because they wanted the war to be over doesn’t mean they don’t want vengeance. They’re willing to let their High Priestess carrying it out for them.

Just to be clear what was actually said, that they’re “tired of fighting”.

[Camerina-amanthul]

@Irenaus-wyrmrest-accord

Just to be clear what was actually said, that they’re “tired of fighting”.

And again, they still want Sylvanas to die for what she did to Teldrassil. They’re even willing to let Tyrande deliver the killing blow.

[Irenaus-wyrmrest-accord (Irenaus)]

@Camerina-amanthul

And again, they still want Sylvanas to die for what she did to Teldrassil.

That’s a non sequitur to what I’m discussing.

[Camerina-amanthul]

@Irenaus-wyrmrest-accord

That’s a non sequitur to what I’m discussing.

Come again?

[Irenaus-wyrmrest-accord (Irenaus)]

Now you’re trolling.

[Camerina-amanthul]

@Irenaus-wyrmrest-accord

Now you’re trolling.

Says the troll who refuses to admit he’s wrong about the night elves still wanting revenge for Teldrassil.

[Irenaus-wyrmrest-accord (Irenaus)]

@Irenaus-wyrmrest-accord

Ok, but you said ‘that’s incorrect’ when Ferlion said ‘there are already Night Elves in game saying they are done with the war and ready to stop fighting’. Then when someone said ‘that’s not incorrect’ you said ‘that’s only Shandris’.

Believe whatever you want about the other stuff. Just making it clear you were wrong about saying there aren’t Night Elves saying they are done with the war and ready to stop fighting.

Why would I admit something that has literally nothing to do with what I am talking about? See quote for the topic. You’re still trolling, there’s no other explanation for this level of obliviousness.

[Irenaus-wyrmrest-accord (Irenaus)]

How do you explain your obliviousness to what I have spelled out for you then? I suppose there are other explanations, but I’m too polite to speculate there.

@Irenaus-wyrmrest-accord

Ok, but you said ‘that’s incorrect’ when Ferlion said ‘there are already Night Elves in game saying they are done with the war and ready to stop fighting’. Then when someone said ‘that’s not incorrect’ you said ‘that’s only Shandris’.

Believe whatever you want about the other stuff. Just making it clear you were wrong about saying there aren’t Night Elves saying they are done with the war and ready to stop fighting.

[Zahirwrite-farstriders]

Have you noticed, thats anduin and Tyrande archievments are now in the Heritage spart of your archivments

[Drahliana-earthen-ring (Drahliana)]

@Katiera-moon-guard

@Zerde-sargeras

the decision to send the night elf army to Silithus was decided by EVERYONE in the Alliance.

it was also tyrande’s idea

Tyrande had actually done so on her own, Anduin approved of it after the fact. It’s a done deal by the time he’s heard of it.

[Randrala-earthen-ring]

@Neridon-emerald-dream

. If they want to write that Tyrande has a hatred and prejudice against undead now, that’s fair, but that’s not really what’s in that line, right? It doesn’t seem like they committed to that?

Yes, they are, and she is. Just like how Jaina had it in for the entire Horde not that long ago.

[Aleona-windrunner]

Did they remove this line and all other dialogue before it? It didn’t show up for me

[Daiza-gilneas]

Completely possible it is Horde only because I didn’t get that dialogue either.