Ok, Lets hear it. What’s the fix to prevent people from waiting on CD timers?
You going to start limiting how many CDs people can use in a dungeon? That’ll go over great, lol.
Mythic+ brings out the worst behavior in people, I think even more so than raiding (with bad teams) does
When getting the groups at all is more work than actually doing the content, it’s a crappy game mode.
And yes, I get that people have to vet and be picky about who they bring in their groups to ensure the greatest chance of success and not wasting everyone’s time. That’s a crappy game mode
At least I’m my opinion.
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If a group needs to pop every CD on every trash pull, they’ll never get past the first boss.
I only do 10s because I only care about vault
Where have you been for the last 20 years? You don’t think people vet their PUGs for PVP or raiding? Gearscore addon…
We must not be playing the same game.
That’s not a fix that would stop people from camping Hero. Maybe your solution is to get rid of all cooldowns, that’ll do it right? lol.
(I’m just throwing out ridiculously bad “fix” ideas while you come up with something…but I doubt you can)
Ah damn that’s why teams are timing +19 Necrotic Wakes after popping lust + everything on first pull. Hell even pugs are doing +16’s with that strat.
What a dumb comment dude.
It’s about taking your time, smelling the roses and not trying to overoptimize everything to the point of it bordering on degenerate gameplay
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The people I play with in +12 keys are suboptimal.
Why else would there be like a 60% difference between best player I’ve seen and worst?
Timer has one big benefit: keeps people without a sense of time management away.
It fixes itself. If your team can’t get through the dungeon without waiting on CDs every trash pull, then your team won’t be good enough to beat the bosses.
Although I do think Bloodlust should have a limit for usages, just so you don’t lust every boss.
You reintroduce the Prideful problem. This key is now impossible, let’s leave.
Like 35 minutes in.
In the words of the pandaren
“Sloooow doooown.”
If you want to play with people who do that, you do you brother. Optimize your key/h.
Why should everyone else also be forced to optimize to the point the game just burns you out?
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Or the rage when someone accidently pops lust at the wrong time.
Man, that would be epic. A whole new method of dungeon trolling.
They’re not. They’re just forced to not be afk. (Well, even then, people can still go afk.)
I’ve done that a few times… too many.
There’s a difference between smelling the roses and being afk.
If you think someone taking their time and chilling while they complete it is “being afk”, play with people who arent like that. And the people who dont want that toxic gameplay can play with other people and do other things besides optimize.
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How?
You make a change that then requires a number of fixes to make it work?
Doesn’t seem like an optimal solution. Especially since most dungeon runners like the timer.
You can’t have your cake and eat it too.
If you want dungeon crawler. Do it at lower difficulties. M+ is supposed to be about the challenge and beating the timer. Pushing higher and higher keys.
This is my main content. And it sounds like you want to ruin them because a “timer is stressful”.
Do it at lower keys until you are comfortable. Then push up.
Welcome to end game content.
If you want to smell the roses, 0’s exist. So does normal raid. And non rated bgs.
And your idea of “degenerate gameplay” is speed running content. Which people have been doing since the start.
You were never left behind on trash pulls in icc and got lost and it shows.
Lol back filling into an m+ thats 3 hours in because they want hero on every pack 
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oooooh, troll thread. Got it
reported.
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Do you need like a real life break after every single pull?
Sounds like the kind of raider that does 3 pulls an hour.
The Great Push contest would turn into a multi-day RWF style competition because teams would have to wait for hero after every wipe, lol.
Nah, because it will reach the point of mathematical impossibility faster.