Im going to need Frost Mage Buffs

uh huh, so the item would go to me and not the 4% guy? because…i get more from it? that’s how we evaluate items

have u guys been giving items to awful specs that gain 3% and not the good ones that gain 2.99? oh boy

What you do in your raid is up to you.

how is 4% of 100 objectively better than 3% of 1000

u are fried my friend

The gain on the player is better. The gain on your raid is worse.

no the gain on the raid is also better

lmao

if the raid gains 4000 dps from me having the helm and 3900 from him having it, how would it be better for the raid…

Frost bomb is terrible and our mastery is so generic

Should of just gave us +% to frost damage.

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Ok know you gotta be trolling.

  • You don’t understand basic maths
  • You posted irrelevant sims
  • Your claim from the start is wrong

You could have saved this embarrassment and all the people currently reading this and laughing at you if you admitted that you were wrong.

In this case (opposite of what you said before) - It is worse upgrade for the player, but an upgrade for your raid. What you do in your raid and how you decide who gets your gear I don’t care. If someone gets a higher % upgrade, it is the better upgrade for the player, objectively. Otherwise you would always just give the best simming character every loot because yolo he sims the best. There is a reason why every single sheet that tries to compare sets to each other compare the % gain, not the raw value.

That said,

I never edited the “by a few decimal %”. You simply ignored it for your narrative.

full bis frost (156000-160000) 4080 dps, 2.61% gain frost
full bis arcane (168k~173500) 5683 dps, 3.39% gain arcane

frost is 0.78% behind, to be better than arcane, it would need to gain another 0.78%

0.78% of 160000 is 1248, which means frost would need to gain 5328 (currently 4080) to be better even by percent than arcane is

so even your percentage claim is seemingly wrong

Full bis frost mage is currently simming 172k dps. Is your wowsims from 2013?

link it then?

something you’ve refused to do the entire time

you don’t do numbers, u just do…random nothing

this is what i said before, its worse to give 4 set to a frost mage than an arcane mage, sorry buddy, there’s no way around this

ur own words

Literally the default wowsims setting? You can’t even do that correctly LOL. Funnily enough, I setup the current bis setup for frost.

imgur. com/uuFqIlm

show ur settings, they aren’t default…

This is an incognito tab. These are default settings.

i.imgur. com/ urr2r0u.png

ur setting are exactly the same as mine but u get 12k more dps somehow

That’s not on me. These are the current default settings. Same goes for Arcane, that is around 185k.

hmm i see, i see what happned

no wait i’m wrong, i have the default settings

Blizz needs to buff Feral damage by 50% across the board to make up for letting it rot for the entire Cataclysm expansion! Marksman (MM) needs Multi-Shot damage buffed by 75% since it doesn’t get a free Serpent Sting DoT or the free AoE damage from traps and Explosive Shot. This would bring MM on par with Survival, which is a PvP spec and should be nuked into the ground. Beast Mastery (BM) and MM are the only true PvE specs!

Also, Fire Mage needs a 60% buff across the board so it can actually pump!

Boomkin needs a 75% damage buff too no excuses.

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Buff Frost mages and ele and boomie.

That is all.

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I will agree on ele and boomie! Frost is a PvP spec tho and should be treated as such!