Gives me more time to play Path of Exile 2 and Marvel Rivals. Thanks Dev Team!
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Wraeclast needs me!
REPENT!
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Unholy isn’t even bad, it’s just behind Frost. In M+ on larger pulls Unholy can quite easily pull ahead since they’re not beholden to Pillar uptime for their damage.
Not in the raid. Both Unholy and Frost are among the lowest performers on every single boss.
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We are nothing without ABOMB
It’s ok to just play amother game at the end of a season. No need to make an excuse.
I had my fun with S1 of TWW and I’m awaiting siren isles. Been playing lots of PoE2 and D4. Been a nice break lol.
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Where are you looking?
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This in its own means essentially nothing. The DPS specs across the game are well enough balanced that outside of the tippy-top one percent of players who are pushing hardcore mythic raiding (and they’re not, those players already have it on farm), you can play every single spec and be close enough to not make a difference on kill timing.
Warcraft logs. Mythic over 2 weeks, 90th percentile. So not the tip top 1%. The top 10%. A 90th percentile parse is NOT difficult if you’re a decent player who knows how to play your class well and your group has a clean kill. I don’t really care where the garbage players are placing and nor should you. There are no real huge outliers at the moment for an average of all bosses, but the gap between top (Ele Sham) and bottom (Augment Evoker) is ~300k dps which is roughly 20%. 1.4m vs 1.7m. Looking at overall, out of 26 dps specs, Unholy ranks 25th. 2nd to last. Frost is 21st.
I’ll give you the rankings because I can’t post links.
Ulgrax - Unholy actually does decently well here. Dead middle of the pack with Frost doing significantly better
Bloodbound Horror - 25th out of 26 with Frost being 16th
Sikran - 23rd, Frost is dead last at 26th
Rasha - 15th, Frost 23rd
Broodtwister - 3rd, Frost is 1st. Really good fight for DKs
Nexus Prince - 21st, Frost 22nd
Silken court - Dead last. Frost is 9th
Queen - 25th, Frost is 22nd
Unholy is among the worst specs in the game for 5 out of 8 bosses with the one fight they have that is good is the one fight in the entire raid that is littered with adds so both specs get to abuse the fact that they don’t have a target cap. Frost with FwF/BoS and Unholy with Epidemic and Diseases. Thats it.
1 meter padding fight, 2 mediocre fights and 5 god awful fights. Safe to say that they’re a bit undertuned in some areas.
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They are looking at the statistics for the raid. Thats it. If you look at M+ DK isnt at the bottom.
Also, if you just look at “rankings” then you are doing everyone a disservice. A lot of these rankings are within 5% of each other realistically which is where blizzard aims for balance. If you take 1st and 26th it would be a bigger gap. People seriously need to quit complaining about such small gaps in dps differences.
Verod is also a troll, dont engage. Talks about how good of a player he is, and how “easy” it is to get a 90 parse, but hes in the greens and greys (as I said he would be) and hes not even in the top difficulty.
DPS specs have it easy, you can play whatever you want and succeed, basically everything is viable.
they got your sub they dont care
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That’s why Verod mentioned “Warcraft logs” so they can see the statistic from both sides of DKs in M+ and Raid, because he just mention only raid they are terrible at not M+.
And you are much more of a troll that blabs about nonsenses with zero progression in DF and this current expac. Quit acting like you know about the class when you don’t even play it
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Everyone goes to Warcraft logs for rankings but people dont do the work to see the % difference when is what Blizzard actually cares about. You care about a rank number and not the graph next to it to show that the difference between specs are minimal.
And why cant you ever point out that nonsense and instead of just saying its nonsense?
Just because you have to trial and error to learn something doesnt mean others have to. Oh, and I dont have to act like I know about the class, I do know about the class, you just have to do that dumb little “you cant know about something unless you do that something” which is just flat out wrong. You have no life experience if you actually think to know is to do.
Don’t bother engaging with the resident troll.
Edit : Oh look! Unholy buffs in the patch! Almost like they were a bit undertuned exactly like I said. But no I have no clue what Im talking about! /s
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It’s not really behind frost, frost has triple/quadruple the amount representation and unholy actually requires you to know how to play it properly. That skews logs by a lot. Frost only really shine on council fights in general a properly played unholy does better.
People don’t know how statistics work if they think 90th percentile or above is “if you’re a decent player”.
Oh I know where people are literally getting their numbers. My question was rhetorical. Everyone and their dad who plays this game wants to think they understand complex statistics, and they vastly overestimate how good they are and how good they believe the average player to be, completely unaware of what “average” actually means. And evidently what “if you’re decent at the game and just do your rotation” means if that’s all it takes to parse 90th percentile on mythic.
Tbh the encounters in Nerub’ar Palace favor Frost more than Unholy. Depending on build, Unholy excels in either straight single target, or mass AoE with targets that don’t fold in less than 10 seconds. Problem being that most of the encounters in NP aren’t either of these scenarios, outside of Sikran and Nexus Princess. Most fights with adds, there are either not enough adds for Unholy to pull ahead (Council, Queen, Rashanan), or if there are, they die extremely quickly before Unholy can finish ramping up or outside of Unholy’s CD windows (Ulgrax, Broodtwister). With the exception of legit like 2 or 3 fights in the raid, Frost is the favored spec just because of how the fights are designed and the most commonly ran strategies.
Which is why Unholy becomes better at higher level dungeon keys, pulls last longer and pulls in M+ tend to be larger.
They dont even understand the simplest of things yet say “I play the game” like that means something.
You’re intentionally misquoting me to fit your narrative.
I’m not the worlds best DK but if I put in some effort, I can hit 90th percentile parses or higher for my ilvl. First time doing Heroic Broodtwister I hit 96% for Frost at my ilvl.
If you parse 96%, then you are statistically one of the best players in the world for your class, spec, and ilvl bracket.
There is 34 Frost players at his ilvl. Everyone at that ilvl is either pink or orange when you specify the ilvl. Talk about skewing the stats.
Someone is technically orange parse at his ilvl with 53k DPS as Frost.
So yeah, in the context of his particular circumstances, he is one of the best players in the world.