Idk who Bloomsday is but “arguing with me is ableism” is just boring lol
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So how it is now without RDF?
Just not doing dungeons without RDF is even more less resistance lol
Instead they get to sit in dalaran staring at chat or a window instead of experiencing the world!
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this is an assertion of belief with no evidence, and presenting it as anything approaching a fact is silly.
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Nope, conflating disagreeing with you with neurodivergence and referencing peoples mental state and sanity is ableism and has no place in the forums. youre just mad that you have to watch yourself when youre being hyperbolic now.
Please, show me where I was toxic.
Never said I was entitled to anything. I’m just campaigning to get the decision reversed, like many others. The real issue is you have no real argument to counter this fact.
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So you are confirming you believe there wouldn’t be enough people left to group up in the method you prefer.
Which implies that the majority of people would prefer to have RDF in game.
Most groups you run from LFG channel don’t socially interact anyway.
It’s basically the same level of interaction as it was when RDF was added to original WotLK.
Oh wait there was sometimes more interaction from an LFG formed group.
Someone would say I’m at the stone, or ask for a summons.
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My entire point was a response to a premise that RDF is optional, so telling people to just use it is an abandonment of that premise.
You also don’t get the 5% buff if you 5 stack it.
No it wouldn’t. Since the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY is against LFD, then not many will use it, RIGHT?
So only the few of us will use it if they added it!
Silence 
Bring in LFD/RDF.
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If you don’t want to take advantage of RDF (for ??? reason), you can still group up manually, manually walk to the stone, etc. It’s literally only convenience (and if the 5% buff is so divisive, just can it, whatever)
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Well that doesnt stick because thats a pretty big if. You are free to dream about your revenge though. Even if they did add it back it would be in spite of you, not because of you.
Never said otherwise but if you want to pretend I did because cuz youre that butt hurt over your entitlement being flat out ignored then I dont have a problem with it.
Im actually pro rdf. I just acknowledge the very real truth that its not a great feature for an MMORPG. Largely because Im not some half wit putz with an axe to grind who thinks game changes in a dead game are the end of the world.
But like I said, if youre not quitting you cant really believe what you said about RDF. If thats the case no one should listen to you, least of all Blizz.
Ofc it’s optional.
The argument that you can still use it when already grouped is counter to “I will be forced to group randomly”
And really, what’s the difference. Is your perspective of ‘fun’ better than mine or vice versa. How about we have both options.
If the biggest gripe with RDF is a buff, just remove the buff. Even then, it’s significantly better and similarly (anti-)social compared to current LFD.
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Don’t worry I’m sure his next rebuttal will be something like “disagreeing with my terrible takes is systematic racism and must not be allowed” next
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would you agree to an rdf that gave people gear and bdges at the same rate as someone manually pugging groups? youd even end up ahead in efficiency then as well being able to level and gather or craft while auto queu’d.
It’s not realistic to expect players to disregard significant efficiency advantages in favor of their playstyle. The differing playstyles should be balanced so that it’s a stylistic choice the players are making and not an optimization choice.
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You are comparing apples to oranges with your example.
It’s not even remotely close to being the same thing.
Using RDF or forming a guild group manually, still means you have to run the dungeon.
Your example, is not running the content at all by just buying the gear.
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by at the same rate i mean in per hour in/played.
It is a stylistic choice! If you do not include a buff for pugging with RDF, you’re allowing players to choose between making their own groups (which is apparently a “better” experience to anti-RDF folks) or use RDF. Most will choose to do RDF because it’s a similar experience to what we have now, but more convenient, but if there really is such a compelling, social experience using LFD, people will still pursue that.
If you want a more social experience, you’re more than welcome to run with a guild/friends list and do content that way. But the reality is that for most players, they’re just using LFD and /4 spam to land a group with no real socialization.
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Thank you for ensuring Im not robbed of the 1hr misery that will be LFG on a fresh 80 in WotLK to get a group together for 1 Heroic when instead I could be spamming RFD to get regular dungeon gear and later badge gear.
RFD coming with ICC was a massive catch up mechanism and integral to the popularity of WotLK and alt freindliness. It may have been the final patch but it was a final patch that lastest the better part of a year.
If we are still stuck with present TBC LFG bulletin board by ICC it will be raid logged dead servers all round.
But remember folk RDF is the devil and ruined the game…OP and his kin have spoken!
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“RDF kills socialization” would be a much stronger argument if there was anything resembling socialization with the current state of pugging dungeons
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