This is fair. I wish we could go back to the tabard system. World quests are silly.
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I agree.
To me it seems like the prestige in WoW comes from doing something more than just the time investment into something.
Of course MMORPGs are inherently designed to allow progression based on time investment. But I believe the most memorable and prestigious things I have done in WoW did not involve a lot of time investment IMO. Instead it was about having fun on my time table even if it was a mere 30 minutes.
This is, in essence, my greatest beef with world quests, and rep acquisition as a whole in the modern game.
I feel like I’m clocking into work and performing this grind on someone else’s time table. Not my own. Just coming into work, doing what I need to do for the day, and going home.
That’s not something I should ever be comparing a videogame to. It’s okay for a videogame to have things that take hard work, but it should never, ever, ever feel like work.
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The daily quest system was designed around 24 hour window. That could feel like work if you are going to log in every day.
But the world quest system is designed around 12 hour intervals. So that definitely feels like work, go home, then go back to work for a second time.
Garrisons were designed in a similar way as well as the other mission tables.
WoW needs more sandbox approach to content so players can choose the pacing they prefer. Yes, some players will burn themselves out but they still do that with world quests and daily quests as currently designed.
Which is why I suspect they are shifting back to a weekly cap for shadowlands instead of focusing so much on 12 hr or 24 hr intervals of gameplay loops. They lost a lot of players by forcing daily log ins.
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It honestly burns me out faster having piecemeal content I feel obligated to check in on every day, than just being able to tackle it whenever I please.
I’d very much welcome a move to weekly caps. It’s not perfect, but it’s a step in the right direction for sure.
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No. I’m playing to have fun my way and I won’t pay to have fun anyone else’s way unless it also happens to be my way.
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Best racials in the game are not cosmetic unlocks, work for them.
So many people are done.
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Or we could just go back to the good old days of simply purchasing the product gave you access to the new race/class when the content released and nobody complained. I find it totally bizarro that all of a sudden ARs have people acting like having to grind rep to play a new race is how it should have been from the beginning because “mmorpg.”
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Ah yes, the only thing less certain than the future of MMOs is the past of MMOs.
ARs represent the first time a new race/class is time and grind-barred in WoW.
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TBC - Belf and dranei, unlocked with purchase
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Wrath - Death Knights, unlocked with purchase
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Cata - Goblins and Worgen, unlocked with purchase
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MoP - Pandaren, unlocked with purchase
== - Legion - Demon Hunters - unlocked with purchase
BfA - new “races” (really just reskins w/new racials) heavily advertised as prime expansion feature. But not only are these not unlocked with purchase, you can’t even get them by just playing BfA!
You have to play old content to unlock them! And since some rep grinds are time-locked, you can’t even do it at your own pace.
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Of course. I’m simply playing Devil’s Advocate, as part of me believes Blizzard’s going to be going ahead with this system for any future races…
Something as vital as your starting race shouldn’t be locked behind anything. I have them all, and while I enjoy them, I don’t feel any sense of (dare I say it) pride and accomplishment for having grinded for them. I’m just relieved it’s over with, so I can have fun playing them.
Edit: That said, I don’t entirely hate the idea of earning something as cool as a race, or racial customization (what ARs really should have been) - but it should be from challenging oneself, or playing through entertaining story content. As it is, the story content is part of the reward, and all you really do to earn them is world quests. If they have to keep this sort of system around, they could do it much better.
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I can only hope that’s the case. Shadowlands looks extremely promising. I’m just hoping it’s not like BFA. All flashy adverts and then once you finish the story everything else is poo.
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