I'm a 2004 original player... here's my thoughts on GDKP

((it’s called a handgun license, and security wouldn’t do that. what’s with you logical fallacy rhetoric? whats the point you are trying to prove? that you approve of GDKP even if it incorporates RMT at some level to facillitate its operation?))

i mean if you actually look at it from a neutral standpoint (you cant because it makes you so angry) gdkp people who run tghem regularly why would they even need to buy gold? lol theyre getting gold from playing the game. non gdkp raids COST gold, and you have to farm mats for gold which requires more playtime. if anything non gdkp ppl have more of a reason to buy gold. look at sod for example, bots are invading the servers like the beach of normandy. their gold is super cheap too

also you cant use a handgun to save you from the auction house being used to launder gold. you just picked one of the lesser evils

why dont we ban gdkp and the ah both? oh you dont wantr to do that because its not ACTUALLY the rmt you care about, you just dont like the loot system because you get log checked

its too late tho blizzerd will never ban gdkp again after sod

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((as tubbly)) said, ((“it’s kind of a bummer that people don’t want to just play the game.”)) …((all arguments aside, that’s about it.))

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As someone who just wants to play casually I find GDKPs an absolute blessing. This game is not my life - it’s just an entertaining distraction on the side.

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why GDKP and not real DKP?

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Never paid a single dollar at any point to get loot.

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Sure bud. You honestly think a typical experience for the average level 60 dungeon blue geared person would be to get accepted into a gdkp with very little gold to be a buyer? Because you need to be a pumper in order to get into a gdkp with 0 gold. Not sure why you’re trying to gaslight everyone, but it’s pretty cringe.

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Molten core and ZG for sure. Just get your pre-raid and its cake.

My now 54 mage already has 1400 gold and its from a combo of selling trash and auctioning greens and blues from world questing. If I skip my epic horse I can go staring into MC, but instead I’m gonna push another R14.

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It’s just so unnecessary. Sure you CAN do all that. But all that does is give a system which enables RMT like wild. Just unnecessary.

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The problem isn’t the system, its gold buyers. Thankfully for us most of the gold buyers went to SoD, Cata and Retail.

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It literally promotes the cycle. It’s a degen method of gear acquisition. The intent never was to have the best gear tradeable for gold. Ever. That’s why BoP exists.

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Really whats the difference between old school DKP and Gold Used as DKP?

Not really all that much in practice and with the only real practical application difference being that it opens the opportunity for a wider variety of players and makes their “Dkp” transferable rather than group locked.

Both systems can suffer the same problem of inflation, one manufactured and the other pollution of blizzards lack of enforcement of Gold buying…

Easy fix, just perma the buyers without mercy

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Guy who played in 2004 thinks it’s totally normally to have 3k gold just from leveling :joy: yeah, okay.

This entire post is just bait from an alt who probably posts here all day on their main.

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The funniest part about anti-gdkp as a stance - is that a silent admission of one’s own failure in a pretty easy game.

Every anti-gdkp player is boldly claiming that the actions of others are harming their experience, preventing them from getting gear, reducing their fun.

The best part of gdkps is that they filter karens by default.

If they made two Era (one with GDKP allowed and one without) the stark difference in community quality would be hilarious, and the one with gdkp-ban would be full of bots just like SoD is.

There’s no way to raid without buying gold or farming insane hours without gdkps.

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I mean… yeah? lol Do you even play on Era?

It’s a 5 year-old server, man. Gold has inflated. I can sell Elemental Earths for 7g each or 70g/stack. I could afford my mount by level 20 and my epic mount by level 45 just by selling everything on the AH. It’s not that hard to believe. Light Feathers (which you can easily farm at level 10) sell for 1g each on the AH.

I fully realize this wasn’t possible in 2004, but that’s not the point I was making.

I’ve done 7 GDKP’s at this point and never once was I asked how much money I had to spend. Start with ZG. If you have 1k gold, you can afford 3 blue’s for 300g each… or just say nothing dropped that you needed, and take the payout instead.


I’m beginning to think most people who are so against GDKP’s have never actually done one.

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I don’t care about GDKP.

It’s the impact of the bots farming gold , power boosting, and other smaller side affects it has on the game that ruin it for me.

If Blizz could allow GDKP whist banning botting and boosting I’d be all for it.

But, I do also love the thrill of an RNG roll to get tier gear as well.

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Guys, I can’t raid without full consumes, non-classic world buff changes, non-classic lotus change in order to flask everyone. Also the game is easy and you are bad at the game if you don’t support my RMT-DKP loot system where the raid leader makes $350 in gold every run and sells it back to the people he just raided with.

What kind of balloon animals do you do?

Said the same thing to him a few days ago. I guess he thinks it’s not obvious that he is a liar. Liars tend to think no one can tell.

Another lie he keeps telling since there are dozens of empty realms, and you can log on to any of them and type “/who 60”. You will see nothing but mages and hunters, all botting and then free transferring the mats back to Whitemane cluster. With the dollar value of gold, the transfer doesn’t even need to be free.

GDKP is fine for a static phase seven wow server

This is going to happen in wow until game moderators are involved with monitoring the community.
You can remove gdkp and these behaviors/bots/systems will continue.
It is a known way to farm gold and items passively.
The better automation gets, the easier it is to deploy bots.
This is 2024 and ai computing is the future. Expect more of it.

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Just because there might be more cockroaches behind the counter, doesn’t mean you let the others crawl all over your kitchen.

Not really relevant. Bots are created by reading the game’s memory (aka hacking) not by making “smart AIs”. Still, all the more reason to remove the ability to RMT for gear specifically. Hacking for mana pots and epic mounts is a lot different than hacking for end-game gear.