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So after blitzing through 70-80 last week on this character, I decided to start getting some gear on him. I did a normal dungeon and got a 593 piece of gear from it, which was a nice 100 ilvl upgrade from Dragonflight. However, it has come to my attention that in order to do Heroic dungeons, you need to be 606 ilvl. Further research shows that it’s the same ilvl requirement as LFR for Undermine.
Now, this is concerning to me for 2 reasons:
- Someone who plays casually and only really does dungeons is stuck being only able to do normal dungeons. Normal dropping 593 gear makes it impossible to be able to get into Heroics.
- Having the same ilvl requirement for both Heroic dungeons and Undermine LFR gives no sense of progression and feels like this wasn’t intended with there being a gap between normal and heroic dungeons, and heroic and LFR.
In all honesty, I’d like to see the Heroics requirement lowered to at least 593, the same level normal dungeons drop. This way the loop doesn’t get cut off from that cycle of gameplay. Granted, I believe many people dabble in different content in WoW, so it won’t effect the majority, but it’s still something that should be brought up as the gameplay loop for just doing dungeons is currently disrupted.
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I think normal dungeons should drop 606 and heroic dungeons should require 593, but currently they are flipped.
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umm just p2w
there is AH greens on Explorer Track if you really cant do anything other than dungeons…
there are other explorer track vendor items.
World quests. or even story progression quests should also have relevant gear.
i think the intended loot might have been to be explorer track gear from normal but it could have fallen through or the loot table just isnt reflecting it. 
Edit: seems the intentionally made normal be a no track upgrade zone so you have to do other content/ find alternative means of gearing the gap. like world quests, delves, quest chains, world drops and or pvp
Undermine story drops gear that can be upgraded to 619 with the valorstones you get.
End of the storyline you get story mode kill Gallywix and get a crest to craft a 658 item.
Cyrce Circlet also 658 item after being upgraded
623-632 warbound items dropping left and right
Nightfall event gives a 636 item once a day every day and runs every hour on the hour
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i haven’t even done a heroic this expansion, and only did normals once for quest rep. it’s kind of sad how their loot is just useless because 623’s are so easy to get
While I can’t imagine any reason to run a normal or heroic dungeon at level 80 at this point when the game showers you with gear elsewhere, I do think it would be good for normal dungeon drops to progress you into heroics for those who want to play that content.
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The weeklies give 626. Just grab to weekly dungeon quest for rep, then grab the weekly from one armed lady and choose dungeon (or whatever) and it gives a 626.
Delves will also give higher gear once you do it several times.
Check out world quests as well.
Weird that it’s impossible to get into heroics given that I’m pretty sure over the last two seasons of gameplay, people have both done heroics and surpassed them.
Have you upgraded your items?
Why do heroics even have a minimum level requirement? Aren’t they supposed to be the lowest level base content once you hit max level?
606 ilevel req? Don’t they drop like 616ish ilevel gear?
Heroics have had an ilvl minimum since at least legion, and WoD had a proving grounds unlock. They’re level 80 dungeons, normal is 70-80. Personally, I think the requirement is higher than it needs to be but I understand why they want you to go in with gear for instances with a minimum level higher than 10.
I meant minimum ilevel* not level, sorry. But yeah you can bulldoze a heroic in Dragonflight gear lol. The ilevel req is definitely steep. It should be accessible for casuals just dinging 80.
I can buy 636 gear for valor, all accounts dont have access to that vendor?
Normal and heroic dungeons are pretty safe to ignore if your goal is gear.
Storyline from latest patch gives you a starter set, from there you can move up to delves/M+ and start farming those for gear.
They do, but that requires you to PvP (since the 636s are on the conquest vendor).
Tbh you can get like 640 ilvl or whatever passively for your entire warband from the nightfall stuff so I don’t know how truly vital that path/track is to follow. We are not in an era where the only gearing way is normals into heroics anymore.
Heroic dungeons have no reason to exist right now. They are so absurdly easy that world content loot leaves them in the dust. Almost identical difficulty to normal dungeons. Then it’s a HUGE jump from heroic dungeons to M0s, barely even the same content anymore.
World content is screwing up everything. Its loot is too good in a desperate attempt to make players love it, then the servers melt if too many players are participating anyway.
you can very easily do plenty of patch content and purchase some gear through work orders to get to the level 610 and do what you need to do. It would appear your molehill is growing into a mountain.
Why on earth would you choose this route?
Nightfalls are FREE 620-630+ gear. You can get a minimum of 2 pieces per hour and 1 630+ piece per week.
Getting 606 is a non issue, you are all just getting trolled.