I'll say it again - JUSTICE FOR PALADINS

20 years of Ret/Prot being horrible. These two roles of the class were designed back in 2004 with the intent they would be used. Obviously there was some major short comings that were only fixed once TBC came out.

For the TWENTY year anniversary realms, now is the chance to make small minor tweaks to allow them to at least SOMEWHAT be in the game.

They could be anything. Not SOD level, but just enough.

Justice for Paladins

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no class changes :expressionless: be happy you got dual spec

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Every class has strengths in Classic. There isn’t a class that excels at everything.

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Paladins are amazing in SOD. Go play that.

I’m sure Classic+ will make them perfect too. You’ll be happy there.

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Warriors excel at tanking AND dps.

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tanking and dps is not “everything” :expressionless:

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It’s everything that they are capable of, and they excel at all of it.

It’s the only class that excels in more than 1 role.

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Out of all the “changes” that could happen to classic overtime. Class changes probably aren’t up on that list anytime soon. SOD did do class changes and pallies are great there so if you want pally class fantasy go play it there.
Ret is still fun in classic and Holy is a awesome healer. Only thing I would argue is to give pallies a taunt but that’s about it.

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Warrior dps should be nerfed and brought in line with other classes.

Honestly, it’s stupid we are going through the 30 warrior per raid meta AGAIN.

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Okay guy :rofl:

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don’t play vanilla if you don’t like it :expressionless:

You’ve said a billion times that this isn’t vanilla, in your highest screeching voice like a wounded alley cat on multiple accounts.

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“Erm, you don’t understand, 5 years later on the 5th iteration of the game it has to be the EXACT same with no changes.”

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Be grateful for dual spec. You can be S-tier healer and buffer in groups and still do open world with Ret. That’s a big improvement.

class changes mess up the game the most :expressionless: so none of those
there are plenty of other changes though, if you haven’t noticed

This isn’t about spec identity. Classic was based on actual class identity and Paladin are primarily a support which means they are best at just that, support, and less about full on damage or tanking. They are literally just like the WC3 hero they are based on. Your problem is with the community at large being a parsing cancer than Paladin not being the best. They are able to pull benchmark dps and more on raid fights as Blizzard designed the game to be done that way. We old folk have proven it back in the day clearing the content when it was actually hard at a patch by patch phase, people are the problem.

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No, it’s the fact Ret was designed to be the damage dealer and it has nothing except auto attack. Even if it was middle or trash it’d be better if you had something to do skill based wise than just watch a bar go up.

Don’t opt to do something that you find horrible, and I suspect you won’t have as horrible a time.

:woman_shrugging:

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Another example of insane level cope

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Ret does deal more damage than the other two specs, and more damage than the Paladin would do without it. Mission accomplished. Not everything has to be an absolute powerhouse in order to succeed. You’re demanding spec identity and Classic is not about spec identity. It’s the class as a whole.

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