This is a thing that I can’t get my head around. They should be encouraging community building in game, but it really seems like they want communities to die. Or to be very targeted to specific activities…
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Blizzard is all about protecting the lowest common denominator player. Same reason they have vote kick protection so once super-toxic players have been kicked from enough groups, nobody else can kick them anymore and people just have to deal with them. (Or, more likely, just /quit the group themselves and deal with the penalty.)
imagin having ways to profit from rando’s, or verifying poll picks and just believing that out of a random sample you’ll always get 100% honest answers. Hardvard or another uni found out that from a sample their discovery was that a fair bit of people simply finished the survey just to get it over with, not caring about what they picked.
if theyre protecting the ‘real’ raider wannabes that vomit up profanity filled tirades when they come into LFR and lowbie dungeons when anyone make any petty mistake, then Im all for dealing with those sorts of players. They ruin the game for everyone.
As far as guilds, Im all for enticing players to join…Im NOT for forcing the matter or trying to coerce solo players who prefer this ‘MMO’ as just being a game with real players filling the world instead of NPCs.
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This is correct…
If you’re looking for a representative value that has to account for a body too large to get full data from.
Which is not what I was suggesting.
Random samples are designed to give a generalized idea where it’s not practical to sample a full set. In this case, it’s not only practical, but the most accurate way to gage where the player base stands regarding the product. In this case, the biases are the most important factor impacting the result.
Good effort though.
But the forums are where I come to shirtpost while I’m waiting for my flight to take me to my destination. Where else am I going to shirtpost if not here?
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Why? They run metrics in game for everything.
Except you are not going to get a full population sample and those that do participate will be biased with a negative opinion.
Which makes any data you gain worthless.
Which is why a random sample would be more accurate.
Okay… explain it to me. If the ONLY respondents left will ALL have a negative bias, what will the benefit of a random sample be? A random sample of a supposedly guaranteed bias pool.
The Gray Lady has definitely seen better days. Times certainly do change, don’t they?
Open polls typically have a higher participation rate with unhappy/angry customers compared to those that are apathetic or happy with the product. Thus, your data will be skewed with a negative bias.
Additionally, an open poll can be swayed by public campaigns that push participation of those with a particular view point. Not to mention, players who have multiple accounts would be able to vote more than once and have a greater influence on the outcome.
Overall, a very inaccurate way to gather data.
On the other hand, a random sample would limit data collection to only those randomly selected. The likelihood of happy/apathetic player participation would increase. And the data would be more accurate and useful for statistical analysis.
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If you want a true defender of all that is Blizz then you want the panda.
This makes sense to me. But what is the conclusion? The conclusion is that WoW is NOT a player-run game. Blizzard does NOT do “whatever the most players want”.
Forget about player opinions about what Blizzard “should” do. We have opinions, but we are MMO players – not MMO designers.
Has WoW changed? No, I don’t think it has. It was a NOT-player-designed game from the start. And yet it became the most popular (by far) MMO game in history. So I guess this no-player-run idea can work sometimes.
I see. So you have no evidence that the hypothetical respondents in this case would actually be skewed negative. And you’re ignoring the original stipulation of my proposal. Particularly considering it would be accessible to all WoW accounts, not just current subs. Particularly considering the incentive for all account owners to respond, regardless of sub status. Particularly considering Blizzard has claimed up to this point is that most people are at least fine if not outright satisfied with the product so far.
Blizzard doesn’t care about what players think though. They have plenty of mechanisms for gathering feedback:
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Emails with links to poll
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Poll on the launcher like you mention.
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Poll that pops-up in-game and uses the GM feedback interface.
Point is devs of this game are one of the few dev groups that actively hates their playerbase and are trying to get rid of large segments of them because they want to make a different game while keeping the same job titles.
I hate graphic tees. I can’t even see them on the internet without my brain forcing my nose to smell too much axe body spray. Instant headache every single time.
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oMEGALUL XDDDDDDD
some hard lying happening everyone’s happy lol. my guilds burnt out only 4 log in we did have 14-20 or whatever that still sucks member having 100’s on i do i see guilds saying they ain’t happy trade forums all over the internet who might be lying i thing you just maybe and that loss of people playing blizz games is the only fact that stands up lol. idc what money they are making sure blizz say fine cause there making money but is the game good?
You’re still missing a very important point: there are metrics run throughout every portion of this game to see who participated, how often, how long, when, etc.
They can just look at the numbers. And they do.
Us little miniscule group on this forum may dislike things, but their numbers may be telling Blizz different when it comes to the millions of others.
Why would you think blizzard doesn’t Ignore them?