If you're banning GDKP, what alternative solution are you offering?

Once again, you invent things to put in my mouth to argue against. I didn’t mention inflation, I mentioned how you have to spend gold on consumables for each raid, which acts as a soft decay. Inflation can only make this process hit harder if you only make gold legitimately.

Yes, most people who reject DKP do it because it’s extremely hard to break into when you aren’t there from the start. This is very well known at this point. Are you implying otherwise? You claim you know how DKP works but again you prove you don’t have a good grasp on the flaws.

Dkp is rejected because it isnt transferrable and so everone new starts at a disadvantage. And it doesnt work at all in pugs. Which I explained at least 5 times in this thread, including to you

What are you arguing anymore? I’m advocating that emblems behave like gold. If you agree then we agree with eachother. You asked about a dkp decay, which is not something that exists in gold, quite the opposite. Nobody comes along and takes away your gold when you dont spend it.

Emblems do not act like gold in this hypothetical. They act like Dragon Kill Points with less safeguards.

if the emblems behave like gold what stops a buyer buying a giant stack of gold, and using that to buy emblems?

and if you mean the emblems should be bop but also able to be bid on items to be automatically redistributed in the group that sounds like the stupidest system ever.

It would enable raids to funnel emblems to a single character so that character can go have loot prio over any other character that hasnt been similarly boosted.

You mean like guilds do all the time via master loot? What exactly is your point? Anything besides a loot casino via rolling is cheating?

I dont think we have enough of a baseline to actually debate each other mate. I dont recognize your reality.

Man that was a read through from start to finish.

What I’m gonna say is that I’m on the fence with this.

On one hand, I wished Blizzard upheld and enforce 6 months or permanent suspensions to gold buyers and banning the bots more frequently because lets be real, if they were to go hard on gold buyers, GDKPs is fine as it is and wouldn’t need to be banned.

On the other hand… Blizzard as of right now, at least for the higher ups of Blizzard is driven by profits and trying to maximize them, often times people that handle with the bans of the bots and the gold buyers are targets for lay offs and comes with lay offs, its understaffed. They probably dont give a hoot about whats going on in Shadowfang keep, Stockades or Billy getting 500 gold from a level 1 character in SoD.

Honestly I prefer the ladder of banning bots frequently and punishing the gold buyers harder then the slap on the wrists suspensions they have been doing but considering the fact with recent lay offs of their customer support and their customer support being lower priority for years to them, I wouldn’t be surprised that GDKPs were the only option on the chopping block to be banned.

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The way you have to mischaracterize every post before you can reply to it isn’t how you form baselines with anyone.
No, once again, I don’t mean like whatever you decide to make up and spout as if I said it. I said exactly what I meant.
How does master looting in one raid give anyone loot prio over people in other raids? How am I supposed to interpret you acting so serious but spouting such nonsense?

A bit of an aside, but I’d also rethink rounding down and consider fractional emblems.

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FTFY

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This means you are arguing gold has a decay.

This Is me pointing out that it does not have a decay (which would be deflation) and instead experiences inflation.

Here you are denying that you argued gold experiences inflation and then go on to suggest it experiences simultaneously inflation and decay (deflation). You are clearly confused thinking gold leaving your pocket is decay / deflation. That’s called spending. The gold leaves your pocket but it doesnt leave the economy. Leaving the economy would be decay or deflation.

Oh, really. See above your an example of your two-sided arguments grasping at straws to prove me wrong.

I’ve been pretty clear and concise. See above. But dont worry, im not going to engage with you anymore. I’ve made my points and defended them against you.

You should consider posting things with actual substance. Otherwise you are just bumping my thread and accomplishing literally nothing else.

I dunno I think he’s doing us a service letting us continue to watch all the copium about GDKP being banned. 5 years is a long time, community has a lot to burn off.

Not the community, they actually like GDKP. Its a community driven solution thats taken over every version of classic wow.

What I think you mean to say is the vocal minority on the forums have 5 years of frustration to burn off.

I think you got it spun around. People who are for GDKP have even admitted they’re the minority. Just not your game buddy, proofs in the blue.

Remove Raid ID

Allow players the chance at killing certain bosses, that they couldn’t from a failed raid where people left and quit after wiping.

Remove Raid ID

not that you dont know thats a bs comparison, but with your emblem system they can go to ANY PUG after being funneled emblems and get whatever they want. nobody cares if a guild funnels someone, thats their perogative.

a guild should not be able to load someone up and send them out into other players outside the guilds runs with an advantage (like they can with, you guessed it, GDKP)

Is that why gdkp takes over in every version of classic wow?

Guild gives someone all the “easy items” and the go join an SR raid and 5x res a weapon. Thats an advantage.

Also, so what are you suggesting? 39 people spend thier emblems specifically to funnel to 1 person in a raid? Well thats their prerogative and a feature of the loot system. A good one in my view, players choose how to spend thier earned rewards. You can disagree, but that doesnt create a “gotcha” moment like you think it does.

In reality this doesnt happen except in maybe a very rare edge case. Much less often than all the toxic behavior from MS>OS that you ignore conveniently.

Greed -is- a deadly sin after all.

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