If you're banning GDKP, what alternative solution are you offering?

I’ve been accurately calling out the gdkp strawman for days. Maybe you were inspired.

Problem = RMT and Bots
Strawman argument: We need to ban gdkp to combat RMT and bots.

This is not a strawman. You didn’t even attempt to explain how it was a strawman. You just repeated again that it is a strawman.

The reason for this is because you don’t know what a strawman is.

Really? I think you can connect the dots.

says the man who cant connect the incredibly obvious dots between GDKPs and rmt, despite it being explained to him absolutely ad nauseam.

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Thats literally the strawman argument. Distorting RMT and bots into GDKP and justifying banning it as a result.

its not a strawman though, its just what happens.

I have personally seen a whale sit there and drop $20k on gear over the course of vanilla, acting like if the money to gear pipeline is a thing people just wont take advantage of it is totally asinine.

this paradigm has played out on every mmo ever that has officially offered p2w, why is wow different?

Yep, thats how a strawman argument goes

A straw man argument is a distorted (and weaker) version of another person’s argument that can easily be refuted

im not at all sure that word means what you think it means.

its undeniable that i have sat there and watched a whale dump 20k into gold to buy gear in wow, i have and i could post screenshots of him posting his transactions to the social disc we all used to hang out in if i cared to scroll back far enough.

its undeniable that in every MMO that has allowed p2w officially, whaling has become the defacto way to win the game. log into almost any smaller MMO and youll see it in action.

You’re distorting RMT and bots into GDKP and acting like by actioning GDKP you are addressing RMT and bots. That help?

they are, just not in a way thay will entirely solve the problem.

its not a binary thing, there is a sliding scale of measures they can take to combat RMT, this is the one they are both ABLE and WILLING to deploy.

just because blizz is not willing to go nuclear and permaban the gold buyers (which they should) does not mean they should do nothing

This is the exact wrong thing because it doesnt address RMT and bots at all. They will continue to operate.

Will be back tmr

question … how has gdkp affected your raiding? honest question.

Yawn, this for the 1000th time? :sleeping:

I think this is a good time to remind folks to check the OP. I sense it may be lost on some of the recent comments

What doesnt come across as serious? It seems much more fair for everyone that wants to participate, and it addresses the glaring flaws of your emblem system that you clearly haven’t thought enough about.

Care to share? Or is this another bad faith argument for argument’s sake?

I already have asked about the flaws in this thread multiple times, but sure. Why would a latecomer ever opt into your system when they will get nothing from pugs for weeks? Why wouldnt guilds game this system by turning it on to gain as many emblems as possible while spending the absolute minimum so that their members can have an advantage over everyone else that isnt? You invented a system like DKP but didnt bother to explore the reasons people do not use DKP - it makes you look like you just want a different unfair advantage over people.

How is this any different than gold? Also, they can simply run MS>OS if they prefer, and get emblems at the same time!

Emblems in this example only drop from boss kills. I dont know what you are talking about. Are you talking about distribution of the emblem bids? Those still have to come from boss kills.

Actually I explore those reasons in detail, it appears you did not. How is the emblem suggestion unfair? Lol what?

Yes, from boss kills. And if you dont even have to spend them and participate to earn them it’s completely unfair and enables stockpiling both emblems and loot at the same time. Do you actually understand how DKP works and why it usually fails? You haven’t even attempted to show that you have a grip on the flaws of DKP much less this half baked EDKP idea.

Would there be fractional emblem payouts, or would it round up/down? Would there be decay?