“To be completely honest, [the Looking For Group tool] is a feature I wanted in the game when we launched the game. I was really unhappy when we didn’t have it when we first shipped”
“But I think your real community isn’t the whole realm, but it’s your guild and the friends you group with, and the cross-server LFG won’t undermine that at all.”
“You don’t have to always [join a Pick-Up Group]. If there are four guildies in a group who just need a fifth, they can do that. You can also use it if even you have a full five-person party.”
~Rob Pardo, former Chief Creative Officer at Blizzard Entertainment
It also changes how manually formed groups do dungeon farming because you get extra badges through rdf. It essentially forced everyone to use it for efficiency. Even if you formed your 5 man group manually the efficiency of extra badges, teleported to dungeons, and the ability to spam it and ignore hourly/daily lockouts (again this is the wotlk version we are talking about) essentially forces anyone trying to be efficient to use it.
First off, not even RDF guarantees you a group in “a reasonable amount of time” (your words) and there will be times where someone (presumably dps) doesnt get one when they want.
Second, if you think groups arent going to be kicking people out upon zoning in for a variety of reasons you clearly dont understand how the people in this “community” operate.
“Or, you can do it if you’re on your own and just want to run something, so I don’t think it diminishes it at all”
~Rob Pardo, former Chief Creative Officer at Blizzard Entertainment
It is superior to get I guaranteed group versus not being able to play that part of the game that day and you or anyone else is never going to convince anyone that it’s not
Not impossible. But it will be harder to create a group without LFD once LFD is in the game.
Your reply to me is still saying why it won’t matter if that happens. That my ability to form a group—without touching LFD at all—will be lessened. Because I might still have say 5,000 people to pull from, or however large a pool is still remaining.
That part we can reasonably disagree on. Some things matter to you but don’t to me. Some things matter to me but not to you.
All I’m saying is you can’t say LFD being in the game doesn’t make it harder for me at all to form a group without touching LFD. It factually does.
Tell me you lost without telling me you lost. Ziryus style.
They both work. One is easier and incentivized which is why its (would be since youre not actually getting it) popular. Whether that’s better is another matter entirely. Its certainly more efficient but so is LFR.
My reply to you is basically showing you that you won’t even notice the difficulty because there is still more than enough players in the pool for you to form a group.
So the people who made the game and all it’s features are irrelevant because the devs of today want to preserve something that didn’t exist in the original, while adding features that also didn’t exist in the original? These guys MADE this game.
“We designed it in such a way that it serves the need for guilds and groups and friends. You don’t have to always [join a Pick-Up Group]. If there are four guildies in a group who just need a fifth, they can do that. You can also use it if even you have a full five-person party.”
~Rob Pardo, former Chief Creative Officer at Blizzard Entertainment
It’s been a long time so I don’t recall exactly how it was with each iteration. I looked on Wowwiki and it says it awards 2 Emblems of Triumph each time AFTER the daily. Those emblems are not equivalent to ICC heroic level gear but they’re not completely irrelevant either.
We can disagree about how big of a deal these extra rewards are, and some I would agree that it’s not a big deal (e.g. the gold reward). But we can’t disagree about the fact that there ARE extra rewards that come from spamming LFD even after the daily.
It’ll award the newest badges first as the daily and then it was award the lower badges afterwards but there won’t be any lower badges in the beginning of the game
More than 50% of wotlk life cycle did not have rdf in it.
And the devs of today have the advantage of hindsight. They got to see how the change effected the game, the community, and the decline of the playerbase “shortly” (in the grand scheme of things) after it was added.
Is rdf convenient? Yes. Is it good for the game? Historic evidence says no.
