Semantics, indicative of your weak argument
Problem is the players who have no business thinking they’re falling behind because their default position is behind
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So let me first say that I see both sides. Undoubtedly in retail, LFD started a trend that eventually made retail what it is today. Blizz is trying to avoid that this time around. Whether or not I agree that this is the right thing to do, let’s leave that aside for a moment. It’s a stated fact that this is what they’re trying to do when they announced no-LFD.
On the other hand, I think some kind of LFD is needed in today’s classic wow atmosphere. The community in classic wow today is NOT the same as the community in og vanilla/TBC. Again this is an observable fact.
Now, back to the specific topic of this thread, which is “if you don’t like it don’t use it.” This statement is technically true.
However, we are not saying we would never be able to form groups manually. We are saying it will be more difficult, and something that makes something that we want to do to be more difficult, we view as a negative.
Right now 100% of the player pool is available to us to form a group manually with. Once LFD is implemented, an indeterminate percentage will be, but it will unquestionably be less than 100%.
I think if a LFD tool is implemented to be like the BG queue—forms the group for you but without any additional bells and whistles—then it will draw less people away from the pool that I wish to draw from, and at that point I am much more easily convinced that the benefits of LFD outweigh its drawbacks.
Can you elaborate on this?
What does this have to do with guiding player behavior?
I fail to see the logic here. If you want immersion, play with friends. If you care about literally anything else, RDF fills that gap. For those trying to grind rep, gear, quests, etc who don’t care about any immersion at all, why are they being punished expecting a tool that was around in the original version of the game?
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Your ability to edit your own post and add two lines is weak.
Looks like again your in the same camp as Zipzo and trying to deflect answering a question by asking one instead? Are you sure you both are not the same person? I mean thats what you been trying to claim about everyone else?
Anyway… Even adults need to get some sleep… Cyas…
Get ready for your “no changes died a long time ago” response
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Your crying over no LFD is like music to my ears
That would be dual spec for the most referred feature, and they are even considering nerfing that.
That would not be dual spec, although dual spec is certainly a big feature as well.
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lol
/winning
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Enjoy your trolling…
Yeah, who would ever do that…
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The sound of the waahhhmbulance this week has been deafening…
Weeee oooooooo weeee oooooo
I think that line he used was popular in the 90s, or maybe it was the 80s
May be presumptive for me to speak for Zipzo but he’s indicated his agreement when I’ve commented on this point before so I think we are on the same page.
By “falling behind”, we are referring to the extra rewards that LFD grants just for using it. You can do the daily which gives a heap of rewards, and then you can spam it for 2 emblems of triumph each time you complete a heroic dungeon using LFD, plus some gold. Now the gold is whatever but the emblems are currency that can be used to buy raid tier gear.
Someone using LFD will thus be accumulating emblems much faster than someone not using LFD. This drives more people to use LFD or fall behind.
If I have 4 friends online literally all of the time who want to spam dungeons, this won’t be a problem. But if I’m by myself, or I happen to have less than 4 friends at the moment, and I want to fill out the group manually, now my ability to do so is greatly limited because a lot more people will be doing LFD, leaving fewer people to draw from for a manual group.
This is why I am a proponent of “LFD that you can queue up and no other bells and whistles”. BG queue but for dungeons essentially. If it’s just about being able to access the dungeon content then we shouldn’t need the bribes of the extra rewards.
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There were far more requests for dual spec in classic and tbcc than there was for rdf.
And in vanilla and origional tbc the requests were far more focused on multi spec than on an automated grouping system.
I would be fine with rdf being added in ICC phase like origional had. But I don’t think it should be in at launch.
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/nailed it
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