Because only power is meaningful? I’m all for open switching but not separating the power from the covenants.
And if I’m able to change out that power, is it any less meaningful?
Because here I was under the impression that willfully changing abilities specifically to address different parts of content was engagement in a system.
Are my talents meaningless? Is there no thought that goes into them whatsoever?
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/shrug
I just want a reason to actually pick a covenant, they need the power.
Remove power, and I won’t even bother picking one.
Pick the covenant you want, you aren’t as good as you think you are. It won’t matter, just like Racials.
Or don’t, pick the one with your strongest, most appealing class ability. It’s your choice, that is kind of the point.
They’re already making it relatively easy to change covenants if you find yourself feeling so terribly burdened by your decision.
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I would love to see the groups that fail a key because they brought the wrong Covenant, and not because someone stood in the fire.
I’m on board with encouraging a representative in groups from a certain Covenant for certain dungeons. Not stacking. “Try to bring at least one Night Fae to access all the buffs” I’m fine with. “Stack four Night Fae or you can’t access all the buffs” is lame, but that’s balance. Not system. That’s just a flag, or numbers tuning, or whatever the case may be. I’m not a developer.
I mean… Yeah? I haven’t cared in the least about any of my talents in years because I drop 50 silver, max, to change them whenever I feel like. They don’t mean anything whatsoever to me.
I could ask the same question about gear. Why can’t I play with and experiment in 480 gear?
To address your question, though, I don’t know. There’s a tradeoff there, and I’m too tired to articulate it, but there are costs and benefits to both angles. I don’t know which is better in all cases. I’d like to see how it works in this one.
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You have aesthetic and weekly quests or perks. The covenants have distinct differences even without abilities.
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I’m pro covenant because choices used to mean something in this game. Go ahead and play Classic and see what I mean.
This is not bad game design, on the contrary it’s good. The 1% always try to ruin everyone’s fun. I can’t wait to level 4 alts and see all 4 Covenants 
while smelling the roses and taking my time.
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None of which I care about
Without power I wouldn’t even pick one.
I dont want them yes 4 all the cocenat : y there r 2 much spell feature ALL get delete guess when ?? Patch 10
You hit Google Translate too many times, hun.
Yes, they will be irrelevant in patch 10.0, just like the rest of Shadowlands.
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u r good part of reason WHY classic so fun ;; but the leveling process is the whole part ! Now you zip up 120 say haha am done buy carry get mythic dungeon 5 minut all ++++
I mean… leveling is ALL classic has really. It’s the only rewarding part of the game honestly.
it is so good but guess what they even no have the level classic in regular bcs of skip boost like when u level 120 instant then die all over bcs u have no fun with clas yet no no what u do
spells
confused grunting
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like when u Druid is all good bb
I would love to see the groups that fail a key because they brought the wrong Covenant, and not because someone stood in the fire.
The point was you were saying these covenant choices aren’t as significant as I was making it out to be. But there are cases where there is a pretty huge difference between doing it and not doing it.
I’ll concede that the stacking portion is a balance issue. However, if my group of friends only picks the same covenant, or maybe two out of the four, how fun is it going “Welp, guess we have to go looking for someone with X covenant”
I mean… Yeah? I haven’t cared in the least about any of my talents in years because I drop 50 silver, max, to change them whenever I feel like. They don’t mean anything whatsoever to me.
This I find disingenuous. You don’t care about your talents, at all? So you’re not making conscious decisions about how you want your spec to play in the game? If they don’t mean anything at all to you, you wouldn’t be paying that silver for the tome in the first place.
I could ask the same question about gear. Why can’t I play with and experiment in 480 gear?
If we were ever presented with a decision between choosing different sets of 480 gear, then yes. If the old days where you had set bonuses based on your spec were locked into that spec so you had absolutely no means of getting the other gear, I would absolutely advocate that you should be able to swap between them (or it changes based on the spec you’re in.)
To address your question, though, I don’t know. There’s a tradeoff there, and I’m too tired to articulate it, but there are costs and benefits to both angles. I don’t know which is better in all cases. I’d like to see how it works in this one.
I wish I could share your enthusiasm on this, I really do. All I see when I see actual player abilities being locked behind an aesthetic choice is Azerite all over again. Corruption all over again. Legion legendaries all over again. I don’t see the advantage at all in this system. I was 100% on board with it up until the point that Blizzard told us the covenants also had abilities locked behind them.
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if dont no waht i mean is fine Texas in car now
Texas is much too large to fit in a car
gtg 4 stupid cop
You asked for it! Here are my answers to your questions, as a Pro-Covenant player. They are true, to the best of my knowledge. I’m not going to lie to you, but you’re not going to like my answers, either.
I’m not concerned about the playerbase. I’m concerned with enjoying the game. And yes, I believe I will not be negatively impacted by the way things currently stand…
Why do I believe this? Well…
I never had any issues or came up against any friction with ANY of those systems.
I think I perhaps re-specc’d my azerite armor a grand total of perhaps 10 times throughout the entire expansion.
When I got my legion legendary, I was thrilled. I didn’t even know how to obtain legendaries, or what legendaries there were to obtain. I had fun, though.
The entirety of my interactions with Corruption were to check my corruption number to see if it was too high, and cleanse one of my corrupted items. That was it.
I will tell you, as a matter of FACT that the complaints a lot of people have made in the past just don’t apply to me. Period.
I’ve only ever regretted my sub fee during Cata and WoD. I’ve been satisfied with the money I paid, because I got what I wanted out of the expansion.
It’s definitely not Objective, because the moment you start to look at the system from a different point of view, like mine, it works. That’s the definition of SUBjective.
Subjective: Adjective; based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions.
The argument that #pulltheripcord players constantly make about “1 week Soulbind and Conduit lockouts” is really, really disingenuous.
YOU GET TO CHOOSE FROM 60 LOADOUTS PER WEEK. Is that seriously, SERIOUSLY not enough?
When your conduits are locked into your soulbind for 1 week, you STILL have the ability to change the “anima flow” path through that soulbind to activate different conduits.
Each Soulbind has 20 different combinations for how they can change their anima flow.
And you have 3 soulbinds.
That’s 60 different conduit loadouts to choose from once your conduits are locked in place.
If the hardcore players can’t figure out how to optimize their characters for different types of content by utilizing SIXTY different conduit loadouts, then maybe they need to turn in their “hardcore license.”
Or, in fact, they’re just being purposefully disingenuous to make the 1 week lockout sound worse than it actually is.
Tell me that 60 loadouts isn’t enough, so I can confirm that you are crazy, and proceed to ignore you.
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