If you are a tank

[Zenji-sulfuras]

and if you are a tank, after 5 seconds into combat a Warlock should be able to put a DoT on a second target with out pulling threat.

[Cyntric-cenarius (Cyntric)]

Demoralizing shout is bugged and it is why we have this AoE meta

Hi All, We have identified a fix for an issue that was causing Demoralizing Shout/Roar to generate too much threat when applied to multiple enemies. In addition, we’ve also identified a fix for a separate issue that was causing Battle Shout and most healing spells, effects, and buffs to incorrectly split the threat they generate between enemies that had members of the buffed party on their threat list. Hotfixes for these issues are going to be deployed very soon, at which time all of these eff…

[Yippiekiyay-area-52]

If you’re a DPS, and you realize that the last dungeon you ran was faster. Please understand that it wasn’t because of you, it was probably an overgeared healer or tank that made it easier.

[Smoo-thorium-brotherhood]

Lol I did this the other day in WC. Joined at 1/100 sword. It only took a few pulls to cap out. This isn’t really a big deal.

Training up 0/100 weapon skill indicates your character is pretty low level, so its more acceptable.

The OP is complaining about people that have 45/300 weapon skill. Which is what, level 60? This is a much bigger problem rofl.

[Sideous-grobbulus]

Dude. I just got this wep upgrade. Don’t worry. One of the four mages can cast int buff on me and it will be leveled in 3 pulls.

[Khazgruk-deviate-delight]

Training up 0/100 weapon skill indicates your character is pretty low level, so its more acceptable.

The OP is complaining about people that have 45/300 weapon skill. Which is what, level 60? This is a much bigger problem rofl.

It shouldn’t be much of an issue then either. Just start off with small pulls until your skill levels up more. It doesn’t take long at all. When your skill is that far below your level, it increases on every swing. Spam Sunder Armor and Revenge because it’s an instant attack that levels your weapon skill even if you miss.

There are ways to hold aggro that don’t involve hitting with your weapon.

[Reyoko-pagle]

yeah i actually brought it up due to sm farming and seeing unarmed skill go up after i ding/disarmed.

[Ultimecia-benediction]

but you are a DK

[Tareir-arthas (Tareir)]

I’d rather bring a tank with 45/300 skill than wait a half hour hoping to find one who has better.

Exactly. Plus the tank’s skill number will get into a very reasonable range after probably about 5 minutes. The math here is easy.

[Smoo-thorium-brotherhood]

Training up 0/100 weapon skill indicates your character is pretty low level, so its more acceptable.

The OP is complaining about people that have 45/300 weapon skill. Which is what, level 60? This is a much bigger problem rofl.

It shouldn’t be much of an issue then either. Just start off with small pulls until your skill levels up more. It doesn’t take long at all. When your skill is that far below your level, it increases on every swing. Spam Sunder Armor and Revenge because it’s an instant attack that levels your weapon skill even if you miss.

There are ways to hold aggro that don’t involve hitting with your weapon.

Leveling up 0/300 takes a while, additionally, as a warrior if you can’t hit things due to no weapon skill, your rage generation is severely crippled, which leads to not being able to generate any meaningful amount of threat on mobs via your toolkit as a warrior.

I personally wouldn’t assume this particular tank that the OP is complaining about was utilizing these other methods of holding threat, i.e shield spike or grenades via engineering. Additonally, don’t grenades have a 1 minute cooldown?

Neither grenades or shield spike should be the main source of a tank’s threat, they should just be supplemental. Even if said warrior was using both of these things, I could see how the group would be kind of annoyed.

[Hidalin-pagle]

I saw a priest recently do that to a mob - punched it to death, and I just though it was the most hilarious thing possible to see a priest just punch someone to death lol

[Rickaonec-rattlegore]

well yeah…

[Khazgruk-deviate-delight]

Leveling up 0/300 takes a while, additionally, as a warrior if you can’t hit things due to no weapon skill, your rage generation is severely crippled, which leads to not being able to generate any meaningful amount of threat on mobs via your toolkit as a warrior.

I personally wouldn’t assume this particular tank that the OP is complaining about was utilizing these other methods of holding threat, i.e shield spike or grenades via engineering. Additonally, don’t grenades have a 1 minute cooldown?

Neither grenades or shield spike should be the main source of a tank’s threat, they should just be supplemental. Even if said warrior was using both of these things, I could see how the group would be kind of annoyed.

It really doesn’t take long at all. I think you are underestimating how long it takes to swing your weapon 300 times, which you can accelerate by using instant attacks like Revenge, and Sunder Armor. After you get to about 290 skill or so is when you will stop skilling up on every swing, and you’ll actually be hitting at that point as well.

You can start off tanking 1-2 mobs at a time until you get capped. Just don’t try to tank full groups at first and you’ll be fine.

[Smoo-thorium-brotherhood]

Leveling up 0/300 takes a while, additionally, as a warrior if you can’t hit things due to no weapon skill, your rage generation is severely crippled, which leads to not being able to generate any meaningful amount of threat on mobs via your toolkit as a warrior.

I personally wouldn’t assume this particular tank that the OP is complaining about was utilizing these other methods of holding threat, i.e shield spike or grenades via engineering. Additonally, don’t grenades have a 1 minute cooldown?

Neither grenades or shield spike should be the main source of a tank’s threat, they should just be supplemental. Even if said warrior was using both of these things, I could see how the group would be kind of annoyed.

It really doesn’t take long at all. I think you are underestimating how long it takes to swing your weapon 300 times, which you can accelerate by using instant attacks like Revenge, and Sunder Armor. After you get to about 290 skill or so is when you will stop skilling up on every swing, and you’ll actually be hitting at that point as well.

You can start off tanking 1-2 mobs at a time until you get capped. Just don’t try to tank full groups at first and you’ll be fine.

You are overestimating people’s patience when grouping with a tank that can’t hold threat on anything because they have no rage because they are at 0/300 weapon skill tanking Scholomance or something.

[Viss-bloodsail-buccaneers]

I saw the title and am compelled to finish the sentence as

“… WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.”

[Khazgruk-deviate-delight]

You are overestimating people’s patience when grouping with a tank that can’t hold threat on anything because they have no rage because they are at 0/300 weapon skill tanking Scholomance or something.

I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagee. I had no trouble doing it, but it seems like you have had a different experience. To each their own.

[Smoo-thorium-brotherhood]

You are overestimating people’s patience when grouping with a tank that can’t hold threat on anything because they have no rage because they are at 0/300 weapon skill tanking Scholomance or something.

I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagee. I had no trouble doing it, but it seems like you have had a different experience. To each their own.

Its not an opinion piece, the original issue didn’t stem from a misunderstanding on what was possible or not possible. The OP indicated that he was irritated with tanks that comes into a dungeon at his level with 0/300 weapon skill.

You are missing the entire context of this conversation.

[Khazgruk-deviate-delight]

Its not an opinion piece, the original issue didn’t stem from a misunderstanding on what was possible or not possible. The OP indicated that he was irritated with tanks that comes into a dungeon at his level with 0/300 weapon skill.

You are missing the entire context of this conversation.

And I disagree, I don’t think it’s a problem at all.
Like I said, we obviously have both had different experiences, so let’s just leave it at that.

[Wrapitup-incendius]

Dont join a group as a tank with your weapon skill for your 1-hander at 45/300 and expect people to be okay with it.

This has been a public service announcement from literally everyone who has had to put up with this crap. Thank you.

How is it even a problem? It’ll be up to normal levels for them in like 2 pulls, weapon skills train up stupidly fast when they’re low and you’re swinging on equal level mobs. Just let the tank whack on something for like a few minutes, lol

[Smoo-thorium-brotherhood]

Its not an opinion piece, the original issue didn’t stem from a misunderstanding on what was possible or not possible. The OP indicated that he was irritated with tanks that comes into a dungeon at his level with 0/300 weapon skill.

You are missing the entire context of this conversation.

And I disagree, I don’t think it’s a problem at all.
Like I said, we obviously have both had different experiences, so let’s just leave it at that.

YOU don’t think its a problem. Keyword you. The OP does, and based on what I’m reading, your reasons for why you don’t think its a problem are not compelling if you’re trying to convince other players that its not a problem.