If WoW were setup like FFXIV

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I got one better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCUvx2BExZI

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Freaky little potatoes.

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If you go through the Skybuilder recipes, there are ones that call for lumber, ingots, etc. That is either going to require gil or a profession to craft those components. And again, what is the point of your shiny new CRP 80, if you can’t actually USE it for anything?

Also, to craft FC recipes, you have to be of a level to actually make those mats yourself or you can’t turn them in towards creation.

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The only ones that require mats like that are the advanced ones that people do for currency, you can level any profession and ignore those completely. And again, you didn’t say anything about max level, you said leveling.

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It fits, unfortunately.

I am definitely serious. They can’t give the players more free space, but they can sell it just fine. Mention this, though, and the Witnesses will be very angry because the devs don’t care about MONEY. (Yet the devs literally manufactured a situation to fleece Hrothgar players into buying a cash shop item just to get a haircut, with dead silence on whether they intend to ever fix the situation. Imagine if Warcraft did that, lmao.)

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One of the recipes I mentioned, for example, is level 60. Max level is 80.

Also, Skybuilder scrips are for the glamours and mounts exclusive to Ishgard Restoration, or even mats that used to be gathered for free in the original Diadem. Whether you like it or not, unless you inexplicably went through that kind of grind (which is called “bad” when it’s Warcraft) for the lulz, to be a functioning crafter at endgame you need to have them all maxed, or spend a lot of gil paying those that do. It’s a convoluted, ridiculous system. Source: Gil capped before because people can’t make it all themselves.

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No, you really don’t lol. Maybe you just haven’t played in a while, and that’s fine, but you get so much XP now that it’s super fast. People were leveling entire jobs in like two days.

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If wow devs were like ffx14 it would be Lott better in ffx14 devs are more for the people they listen

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I’m playing right now. My second omni partially leveled in Ishgard Restoration. To make so much as one of the shiny new furnitures now, I’d need the combined effort of three professions or more. (CRP, lumber. BSM/ARM, ingots, rivets, what have you. ARM for plate. ALC, Varnish, ink, firebricks, clinker bricks, etc.) If you’re doing it just to have the achievement for all crafts maxed, you do you. Some of us actually use it, and all of it’s needed unless you like spending gil. So yes, even while leveling in Ishgard Restoration, there is crossover.

Ofc that’s just the raw leveling itself. I didn’t even mention the minimal level of gear needed to actually max collectability for effective turn-ins.

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You must be doing it wrong because I literally leveled a single job without needing another one at any point lol.

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I had no idea Blacksmiths could make their own lumber, no. Or CRPs their own ingots, etc.
Unless you were spending gil for it, which is literally –

If Warcraft were set up like XIV, it would have a bloated crafting system that requires you level all of them at once, unless you have a lot of game currency. Source: Omnicrafter on two characters.

–what I said in my original post.

“lol”.

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Weird, I literally just said I leveled a single job without needing another one at any point. Like I said, you must be doing it wrong.

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Well it’s not really as extreme as needing to be rich or leveling all of the crafters, but there’s some element of truth to that. But I can also offer you an alternate solution to this “issue”. Join a FC / make friends with other crafters. It is an MMO after all, so that’s probably how they intended it to work.

It’s the same answer that I give to people that are tired of the toxic LFR/LFG in WoW. Join a guild.

Honestly a lot of your post smells borderline/outright disingenuous. There’s some truth, or rather kernels of truth, in them but you’re really pushing the boundaries of believability there.

Feel free to listen to this person if you want to folks, but they’re absolutely twisting some of the facts here.

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Which job? Because, let’s see, let’s take CUL Grade 3 Skybuilder’s All-Purpose Infusion.

Those crystals? That’s from either gathering or random PvE drops (not an effective way of gathering it)
The toad? The tea leaves? That’s botany.
The spring water? That’s mining.

The gear you wear to gather it? That’s WVR and LTW. The tools? BSM or ARM.

Or gil.

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Oh, so we are now considering gathering in the same category. Didn’t know we were moving goal posts.

You can get them from a darn vendor for basically nothing lol.

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Then explain this

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I like the assumption I’m not in an FC or have friends in the game. I do. And I’m the primary omnicrafter for both FCs. But hey, at least you admit the “kernels of truth” part.

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You sure do complain about the game a lot. Sounds a lot like people on these forums crying about WoW yet can’t seem to unsub lol.

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Interesting question.

FFXIV is like WoW in that, you will probably never achieve that scenario (or at least the average person wont). That would be the equivalent of doing all the quests in WoW, leveling up all the professions (all expansion versions) doing rated PvP, and all the difficulties of raiding. That would also include all of the mount farming, toys/collectables, and housing. Granted, WoW has a bit more to do on all of these fronts (except housing) because it has been around longer, but the amount of time it’s going to take you to do all these things is phenomenal.

On the topic of questing, there is a “main scenario” quest you have to comeplete for all of FFXIV’s expansions. It’s not the same as doing all of the quests in WoW. It’s long, but not nearly as long as, for example, doing all of the quests in WoW.

I hate to burst your bubble, but the FFXIV crafting system is much more intricate than WoW’s, and much more useful for gameplay (you can craft items that are actually on-par with raid gear if you are really good).

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IMO the best gearing system was in SWG pre-NGE. In that game all the best gear was made by crafters. I wasn’t a crafter myself, but part of my game was hunting specific animals for an armoursmith and selling him the hides. I use to do that when I got tired of hunting jedi. I really wish WOW would incorporate something like that.