It changed it for sure. It SUCKED when stuck on ground… It sucked LESS then you could fly.7
One can only hope …
You are the guy arguing that Wrath is bad. Even though it’s the best example of an expansion that appealed to both groups.
My favourite time of WoW was tbc and I hate BFA but if the current retail was like wrath I’d play it anyway because it appeals to me still.
Just because you are a classic/tbc diehard fanboy doesn’t mean most people are. If there’s a spectrum with one end being retail and one being classic, most people fall in the middle because even now BFA has it’s strengths over classic for example raid mechanics.
The problem with retail isn’t that it can’t be fixed. It’s just that it would be a long term process that would cost a lot of subs in the short term. Blizzard would have to also admit that they were wrong which they don’t like doing – for example they would have to return master loot and admit that personal loot is garbage. Blizzard tends to be too stubborn and narrowminded rather than uncreative and stupid.
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Not comparing anything. Mag was… interesting but I would hardly call that a mechanically demanding fight either.
I recently started leveling up with a new player. When I walked into Orgrimmar, the difference was palpable. Dalaran may be completely dead now, but Org is super populated again.
Okay, and? Who cares if people would rather do their business in Undercity, or Dalaran, or Darnassus?
Trying to force everybody into one city is not a point in Blizzard’s favor.
After classic releases I will NEVER play retail again ever.
If they don’t build off of classic making that become the “NEW” retail then that is where my wow journey will end.
Well… it felt more like Vanilla, where everyone did their business in one city, because that’s where the AH started…
Except it does not appeal to both groups.
That is my point. And you are going to have to provide a source that says most fans of vanilla and bc would play retail if it was like wrath because i do not see it, for reasons listed.
Still not a point in Blizzard’s favor. If I prefer the ambience in Thunder Bluff or Exodar, trying to tell me I’m playing the game wrong and force me to go to Orgrimmar or Stormwind is just being a douchecanoe.
Also, just because something was a certain way in Vanilla doesn’t automatically make it good.
So what you’re saying is that you want convenience and personal choice at the cost of community… And you want classic.
Right, because everybody standing in the same place to use the auction house makes a “community.”
Anyway, Blizzard actually linked the faction (and Neutral) Auction Houses during Vanilla, in patch 1.9, in order to make it more feasible to use capitals like Darnassus and Undercity. The changes in Battle for Azeroth are just the current dev team stamping their feet because not everybody plays the way they are “supposed” to.
These are 2 different games. It’s hard to even compare them as 1 is extinct…
The reboot will never be the same. As long as blizzard keeps building off of Legion/BFA, the franchise will flourish. I just don’t see the 2004 mmo recipe holding its own against evolution.
And hey, I loved Classic/BC.![:slight_smile:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/slight_smile.png?v=6" ":slight_smile:")
Both sides of the AH linking argument are valid. When you have two good arguments… but one falls under the no change category… you pretty much should go with it.
This is a re-release of Classic… not a let’s take the best of everything and re-create WoW in our own image kind of thing.
I would like either AH setup to be honest… but I think having people travel to the other capital cities to look for items increases TRAFFIC in the world… increases diversity in the cities.
The RPG factor is strong as well. While today, Amazon can deliver just about anything we want globally, unfortunately Gallywix just wasn’t smart enough to com up with the idea of global distribution of goods.
I actually thought they did a pretty good job with Legion. The class halls were something I’ve been arguing should have been in the game for years. It added a nice RPG element to the game. And they got rid of them after one expansion…
This exemplifies why I left retail. It’s a joke. To go from the complex, challenging, and cerebral experience of vanilla to the 1-2-3-4-no-matter-what-class-you-are rotation is so… disappointing. It says more about the current fan base of gamers than it does about Blizz as a company, however. They have shareholders like any other company that they need to keep happy.
I would have to disagree… the Class halls were more of a novelty, and did little more than further spread out the playerbase. It also incorporated the feel of Garrisons which wasn’t a good thing.
Instead of having you out in the world, or connecting cities and hubs… you kept going back to this “place”.
The whole cross faction thing was odd as well for a faction war based game. This was their attempt at using CRZ and cross faction to simulate more activity than your server really had.
If I compare the class halls in Legion to say, Ironforge in Classic… there is no comparison. THe feeling is entirely different. The people you see around you, you can trade with… they are people you ran an instance with 10 levels ago…
They are the same people you saw in tier gear… .but they have an upgrade and you inspected them to see it’s glorious stats.
They are the people in trade chat… selling items, telling jokes, asking for help, and trolling.
I never once spoke to another person in the class hall… although I might have spit on a Horde troll mage… without response.
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Classic fans has their game unless you believe that retail must also cater to the classic only people.
Maybe that’s what they need to do though. People will whine, yes, but that’s what got us into the sorry state we’re in to begin with, blizzard caving to whiners. Sometimes you just need to put your foot down and say no.
I think if Classic WoW is successful it will be a hot topic among developers particularly in the MMO genre.
I don’t know that we can actually define it as fans, even though we have made thousands of attempts.
The one thing you can’t buy and nobody can give you is passion. People are passionate about this game. What exactly makes people crazy about it? I think Blizzard literally can’t understand it, and I’m not sure we the fans do either. Classic is feinting teenage girls to young Elvis and nobody knows why.
They either accidentally made one of the best games ever or it was meticulous hard work and they let player feedback steer them off the track.
I literally don’t know which is true.