Just some food for thought. If the typical length of BETA is 3 months or more. Wouldn’t we need to be entering BETA now (Before the end of next week) if the purposed release dates are to hold true?
Personally, I am okay not expecting Dragonflight until 2023 if that is going to make it that much better of an expansion. Wondering what others think and how others are feeling on the subject?
all time scales can be adjusted.
even the release.
even the allotted beta time.
afterall, we had had a entire expansion stuck in beta.
Not so sure Blizzard is really into feedback and testing these days.
Things I’m expecting for dragonflight this week:
Actually this is not as true as you think. Contrary to what many americans think, but companies don’t just get to walk back dates as easily across the big pond if they’ve taken your money for preorders and such. You don’t meet your deadlines, you’re obligated to at least give preorder money back…not so easy with WoW where even your access to the game/perks is consumed.
Far easier to do what they did for SL…which was in no way ready for its craptacular launch…just release it anyway and fix/tune it all after the fact. I also have 0 faith in their beta to prod versions anyway. I couldn’t even level to 60 in the SL beta even doing every side quest and each dungeon once for the dungeon quest up till the night before launch…yet I hit 60 panicking and doing all the side quests early in Ardenweald. Clearly they fixed the XP issues but just never bothered to on the beta.
Honestly Beta (and publi Alpha) is more about showing off the game and letting folks treat it like early access more than actual “real” beta testing.
Dragonlands is being pushed out to shore up the 2022 financials.
That it literally the only thing I can possibly accept.
Alpha → Beta → Release in 3 months? With Blizzard’s track record.
Yeah, totally doable. Uh huh. Sure thing, bud.
With all the beta feedback in SL and with this kind of time crunch yeah I’m feeling this is about to be history repeats itself…not good if BFA SL and DF all bad expansions…wow may never recover if that’s the case
Just more proof that DF is gonna be more rushed garbage
i can imagine a world where billion dollar company can get skirt around legal stuff.
… refunds? thats it?
oh thats scary.
Refunds except how they have to block your toons and/or remove stuff you used the boost on. Or don’t and people figure it out and then game it. Try buying a boost and then calling your credit card company to claim the card was stolen and get the charges reversed and see what happens.
Plus the whole bad marketing that’ll come with missing such an anticipated deadline and all the affected players who plan their time off/vacations around the release.
More to consider than just “refunds”.
Edit - I seem to recall too that certain EU laws actually could penalize Blizzard too past just refunds. It was one of the reason why SL couldn’t be delayed until the following year…but I care far too little to actually try and vet/verify that.
hopefully dragon flight doesn’t release until 2023. no one wants a rushed product, and if players are bored of s4 they can simply just deactivate their account until expansion release.
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id rather eat the 60 bucks and avoid the call to the bank.
i think it could be spun to a positive.
" we need more polish, we want a good product. its done when its done "
The talents are the only “system” they’re working on. There really won’t be much difference between alpha and beta other than the number of players invited. Really depends how much “testing” beta players do, versus just using it as early access for their DF leveling plans.
I’m fairly certain Blizzard will still be iterating talents through the first content update anyway.
If WoW pops out 3 trash expansions in a row while its most major competitor hit 4 damn near perfect expansions in a row you can call it done.
WoW wont die, but itll never recover from that sort of loss and youll only have the die hard fans and mythic pushers left.
Yes the good old “soon” meme Blizzard was well known for back in the day. I’m sure the would love to play into that. Problem is even if they did, their corporate masters aren’t about to let that happen.
corpo rats probably didnt enjoy shadowlands… they might want a win regardless of cost.
Well its taken months for the class talents to get built and they still aren’t finished. I’m not sure how quickly they can balance anything…
After all it took a long time to get covenants “balanced” and that was only four talents across classes, instead of 60+ talents across every spec.
Corporate rats don’t give a damn about the game or even the company past the upcoming quarter.
the games a pipe for revenue and negative press on a IP shows poorly on the companys stocks.
x to doubt.