Hard disagree. Tinkers have the most potential out of any commonly floated class concept because there’s so little overlap between what they do and what any current class does.
Whether they’re fun or not would depend entirely on how Blizzard built them, but they wouldn’t be a Demon Hunter 2.0 where you have to just ship them with two specs because you can’t stretch the concept to a third.
Hard Disagree.
None of the classes do anything even remotely similar to what a Tinker could do.
You’re welcome to disagree, I still think they would be boring. I personally just hate the idea of them, but sure they can exist in the game.
I would say they would most likely completely gut the engineering profession.
Never argued they could. I still think they would be boring. I will argue that I think they would take a lot from professions. Additionally, I personally want to see a big return to the fantasy aspect of the game. I feel like having mechs running around and little healer robots takes away from that fantasy quite a bit.
Just my preference though. I acknowledge that they can absolutely exist, I would just prefer they did not personally.
If you’re going to reply in part, please reply in full. The actual context of the post addresses this. Shamans can generate electricity. Technology can harness and amplify this.
If you’ve ever watched the Avatar series, “lightning benders” were a “big thing” when they were introduced. The WMDs of their era. But technology marched on. Flash forward 60 years or so. Lightning benders by the hundreds work in power plants to charge generators. Lightning doesn’t mean all that much when you can get the same result from a gun. Dead is dead.
That is doing world building right. If you’re going to advance the level of technology available, you need to rethink roles in society.
The engineering profession has already been gutted by the fact it’s a profession that has to be balanced against stuff like herbalism or mining.
The profession exists purely for quality of life gadgets like Goblin Gliders or Mailboxes, because the second it gets something more useful than those, Blizzard have to nerf it.
I think that brings us to an entirely separate problem, which I am sure we agree on 
Tinkers don’t have to advance the level of technology available, because that level of technology already exists within the universe.
Not even at an “ultra rare, cutting edge” level that could only exist in the workshops of someone like Mimiron, but just through regular crap that’s already been invented by existing tinkers in the Horde, Alliance and other factions.
The conclusion you’d come to from that statement was that he likes most the story. I’ve said on a number of occasions that he clearly doesn’t like key aspects of it.
I’m definitely not a fan of sylvanas and I can argue that she was badly utilized as a part of the plot in the last two expansions. But I’m saying the story writing for recent expansions is bad, not that tech/scifi/interplanetary war that existed since before Wow are bad, because that would be to deny foundational parts of the game’s lore.
World of Warcraft doesn’t have the same Rules as Atla.
Technology, Weapons, and Magic are all on equal playing fields in World of WarCraft. I’m sorry you can’t accept that.
But this is very clearly splitting hairs. Technology, Magic, and Weapons are all just fine in context. Working together.
I think they would be interesting.
Comparitively I think Warlock is a boring class, I would never play a Warlock.
That doesnt mean Warlock is a bad class and it doesn’t mean warlock should be removed.
I just don’t like it.
Why didn’t the Vindicaar zap the Horde out of existence?
Same reason that Jaina didn’t drown Orgrimmar back in MoP.
When it comes to faction conflict, the Alliance gotta be neutered so it’s a fair fight.
Exactly: shoddy writing, inconsistent internal logic, and plot holes.
Becasue this is a Video game. Keldar.
And If the Vindicar had Fired and destroyed the Horde. I’m sure Horde Mages would’ve put up a magical barrier to block the fire from above.
So your best excuse for why we shouldn’t get a Tinker class is “Plot Holes”?
Exactly. Plot holes. You are implicitly acknowledging their existence here. Plot holes created by the presence of advanced technology.
Absolutely. You have to give the writers a little credit. They’re not going to focus on a sideshow element of the franchise that interests a select few for an entire expansion while knowingly creating a ton of logical inconsistencies for the future of WarCraft and further aggravating everyone that wants to return to the core fantasy.
I’m not sure how that precludes tinkers though?
After Sylvanas…Do we?
Mages and Warlocks create more plotholes than tinkers do.
I legitimately can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or not.
These are the Writers that gave us Shadowlands. The Carnival of Master plans inside of master plans.
No, I don’t give them any credit since this expansion.
But: If we got an expansion that actually focused on things that are part of WarCraft. That would be a lot better. An Expansion with Gallywix as the Main villain, or an Expansion where we have to fight a more Modernized Military in the form of Venture Co. would be much better than Shadowlands, Because it would feel like WarCraft and not Steve Danuser in an echo chamber
You are also saying that This is a legitimate reason to not get a new class, Which I just don’t see.
How do plot inconsistencies prevent a new class from being good?
Mate, what are you even going on about? You’re wild and keep going on tangents. Nobody here is denying foundational parts of the game’s lore (which I really hope you are not saying Shadowlands is lol).
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That’s basically what I am saying about tinker. Since they aren’t in the game yet, I would rather we get something else, but if they get added, I would most likely be indifferent. I just don’t like them. Just like I don’t like Priests. They are boring so I don’t play them. Know what I would play though? A dragon-themed class. That would be dope and deep fantasy.