They may make the last one far more open, but i think they were expecting more testers.
To better understand what we are talking about and what my initial response and explanation is for (to address the purpose and use), I shall now quote the user I initially replied to - so you can understand something called “context”:
To your post - You can do all of those things in Layering just like sharding, never said you couldn’t. The use-case for each is DRASTICALLY different.
The SCALE for each is - DRASTICALLY different.
Anything else I can help you with? Would you like a link to the definition of context so you can understand?
You could probably benefit so here: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/context
Anything else I can help you better understand? Or is this too much for you all at once? Should I type slower?
And we were always going to get some realm resource duplication method because of the expected attrition rates.
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Maybe to you - it’s subjective. Many people like retail WoW.
I don’t like pservers, so I played it pretty consistently up until the Argus patch in Legion myself. Actually enjoyed it some (nowhere near TBC and vanilla but…) But BfA is just garbage.
Then it’s the same thing. Thanks for agreeing.
That doesn’t mean we should get any such thing. No changes.
Plan vs Reality - Reality Wins.
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Blizzard’s plan always involved sharding. That doesn’t make the plan good.
The reality is that vanilla didn’t have sharding/layering.
The plan was to be as close to Vanilla as possible. The Reality is that the play numbers graph will be vastly different.
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Absolutely did not agree.
I made several points addressing this.
How about you debate those instead of spewing hot takes from your mouth while repeatedly ignoring both the context and what was said?
Do you think you can do that?
Or are you just going to copout? https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cop-out
You DID say:
Which I’ve proven you don’t - So go ahead and debate me!
Exactly. So why is layering being added? It is possible to not have layering. Layering is not necessary.
Things like battlenet don’t receive any backlash from the player base because it doesn’t affect gameplay, and its implementation is necessary.
So what? That doesn’t mean the game should be changed.
You did, just inadvertently.
Nah. When you learn to be respectful, I’ll bother addressing your arguments properly. Until then, I’ll treat a troll with all the respect a troll deserves. Grow up.
You must be new here.
It means for the first few weeks, accommodations must be made, so that we have high populations after the tourists leave. That accommodation is layering.
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No thanks, asking for most of the realms to end up dead realms after a few months is one of the stupid #nochange ideals…
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Oh, no, son. You came in being disrespectful with your “i know everything” and completely hand-waving what i wrote MULTIPLE times with “so you agree with me”.
So hand-waving, putting words in my mouth, puffing your chest. Yeah I’m not the one that started with being disrespectful. I’m replying in kind, my guy. You don’t want to get none, don’t throw none.
Debate my points because I’ve said multiple times I don’t agree with you. I’d really appreciate if you laid off the children’s “My First Hot Take” instruction guide and talk like an adult.
I made points in direct contradiction to what you wrote and gave detailed reasons why - you just don’t want to address those because you know it’s an argument you can’t win.
How childish.
Don’t, not didn’t. There’s an initial backlash to literally EVERYTHING Blizzard does. No exceptions.
However, when’s the last time you saw a thread complaining about battlenet? Compare that to how frequently you see threads about layering.
It’s because layering is something that actually affects the player base in a significant and noticeable way, for the worse.
Accommodations don’t need to be made, actually. The game is better off without layering, both short term and long term.
Also, I’m not sure Phase 1 is “the first few weeks.” You know Blizzard has evolved their plans for sharding-- sorry, I mean layering, yes? It’s not just “starting zones for the initial launch” anymore.
Unless you think Blizzard saying “it’ll be gone by Phase 2” means “it will be gone before Phase 2,” in which case:
They won’t be dead after a few months.
How could you possibly have large queues AND dead realms once the tourists leave? Do the math.
You sure about that?
When you stop trolling, I will.
Because people stop playing games everyday for millions of different reasons. Classic is also a game that has no fresh content, no updates and will be in permanent maintenance mode with the release of Naxxramas. In a few years, it will be a few steadfast fans, folks returning for a short time to fill a void and some drifters left. It is inevitable, no matter how much one may like the game.
Your first reply to me:
What’s that?
Oh, ok. Yeah. You did that first.
Ball’s in your court, kiddo! Still waiting for you to debate my points that clearly show I don’t agree with you.
Again, if you can’t take any - don’t give any. Easy!
I already proved you pushed that button first.
Back to you, kiddo!
Layering as an annoucement, is barely a month old. Battlenet complaints ran for multiple months.
That’s because you’re listening to the scaremongers because you want to. Ion specifically promised it would be gone within a few weeks. Not Phase 2. You can be as unsure as you like, but they have specifically said a few weeks. They have never said that layering will last all of Phase 1. That’s intentional misrepresentation.
Because you’re making up your own argument to fight? Long queues during the first few weeks, which without layering will stretch into months as people keep trying to get in, vs dead realms once everyone does get in and most decide not to keep playing.
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But sharding isn’t, and it’s basically the same thing.
Now, with all the beta testing, stress testing, and chances we’ve had to actually see these features, the one still being complained about is layering, not battlenet. Why is that, I wonder?
We’ll see. If it is, I’ll only have to complain about the awful feature for those few weeks.
I suspect, given Blizzard’s history, it will be there until Phase 2.
I actually hadn’t seen that interview. It’s promising. Hopefully Blizzard follows through on that.
Nor did I claim they did, merely that their words left open that possibility. Blizzard has a habit of using weasel words. What was promised is that layering will not happen after Phase 1, i.e. won’t happen in Phase 2.
Or just add a few more realms and deal with the fact that there will be queues during the launch. That’s normal, and will subside.
But yeah yeah, “Blizzard has goals.” Their goals suck. That’s why I want Classic: to be as far away from Blizzard’s goals as I reasonable can while still playing WoW on an official server.
There are countless suggestions people have made to improve upon layering; things that won’t affect gameplay, ruin communities, or cause problems with name overlaps. Yet we’re getting the awful phasing crap.
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