If memory serves me

I mained a Warlock and a Pally back in the original WOTLK

No paladin or Warrior could beat me.
For the most part I dominated 90% of the player base.
Yet in this version of WOTLK Locks are pure garbage that get owned by everybody.

What happened? (I don’t have a warlock in classic WOTLK)

This is not WOTLK
These silly subtle changes made by the devs have corrupted the game.
The little gift boxes they give you for doing anything.
I literally have 100 mana and health potions in my bags.
While Alliance has always sucked at BG’s I think they won more 12-14 years ago then they do now.
Alliance dominate BG’s 70-79 but upon reaching 80 they can’t buy a victory??
What??
This isn’t a gear disparity. Is there actually a alliance PVP’er that DIDN’T reach 80 being honor capped?
What is with this miserable grind from 70-80? It wasn’t this long and painful 12-14 years ago. My desire to level up another toon is non-existent.
As a life long supporter of Warcraft this simply does not feel like WOTLK…at all.
This is miserable.

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there were a lot of threads ending in “NERF WARLOCKS” in late TBC or early Wrath, iirc.

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Yea… Thats gonna be user error. The ol “ID 10 T” bug strikes again

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Almost everything you mentioned is because players are way more knowledgeable about the game compared to 2008. The leveling part is because you’ve done it before, and you probably don’t have anywhere near the same amount of free time you had back then

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Locks kinda get run over in duels and 2s by any competent melee. Also people know how to counter us well now. Back early on people didn’t know what their abilities did (like how death wish breaks you out of fear) as well so everyone complained about warlocks because they seemed hard to beat.

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Tbh hes just doing something wrong lol. 2 of the top 3 best dps specs in the game right now are warlock specs… and even their worst spec is still better than 2/3rds of the classes in the game at #7… If youre having trouble pumping as a warlock rn the problem is entirely between brain and keyboard.

Maybe hit up your class discord and/or post some logs so people can help you figure out what youre doing wrong

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You didn’t read the entire post did you?
I don’t have a warlock in WOTLK classic.
Do I need to say it a third time for you?

You must have the attention span of a puppy.

So youre talking completely out your :peach:?? Got it

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Go back to whatever hole you crawled out of.

You’re complaining about warlocks, but then admit you don’t have a warlock …

Am I missing something here?

How would you know if you’re not playing one???

Did you roll over one and then immediately had an epiphany they sucked in PvP?

Also … we’re playing the last patch of WotLK. A lot changed between launch patch and last patch.

I’m sure you’ll respond with some nonsensical commentary, but it’d be appreciated if you could focus on the questions posed.

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Your insolent tone deems you unworthy of a response.

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Aaaaand we’re done here. Gg

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LMAO …

Whaaat?

So, in summary folks … dude has no clue what the hell he’s talking about and is attention seeking.

Nothing to see here.

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Yeah the original poster has no idea what he’s talking about. Huge cry baby. We moving on haha.

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We’re in 3.3.5 with out the spells prior to them (a bunch were removed).

DO what now??

I literally re rolled ally and havent lost a single bg yet.

Horde is dog water at bgs my guy like so bad its unbelievable. You can level an alliance toon fairly quick doing bgs. You cannot level a horde toon through PVP at all unless you want to take 5 months.

What server you on?
I DID level 2 alliance toons solely in BG’s and it was pure domination.
Then I hit 80
Can’t buy a victory now.

you literally cannot lose an AV as alliance

Yea, no one is gonna believe any of this…

Do you have titles to “prove” your domination or were you just a BG hero?

they must’ve fixed the unfair cave position.

i’m sorry I mean… horde just needs to play better.