*IF* Guild banks are added

[Piptak-wyrmrest-accord]

I might have worded that better, when the game registers the guild clearing the first raid, then perhaps the option would open up for the guild leader to purchase.
There should need to be something in place to ensure a real guild is using for the purposes of guild progression.

[Blindsáp-stormrage (Blindsáp)]

whyre you trying so hard to stay relevant in this thread lol. Nobody even replied to you dog hahahaha how embarrassing /wave

[Starz-boulderfist]

Go scroll up mane. Bout 10 people telling you how dumb you sound. I know being a teenager is tough but mature a little and come back

[Blindsáp-stormrage (Blindsáp)]

Its the nochange anarchists… I don’t push for either side. Just want yall to stop the crying and see within reason. Atleast your getting a classic server, all of you nochange ppl feel like your entitled to it hahaha. That’s why youre labeled as babies

[Starz-boulderfist]

Can you learn proper grammar before posting? Judging by your posts in GD you’re just trying to be an edge lord and just to note… If classic gets all these dumb changes, it won’t be classic.

Do you still need schooled on the difference between an opinion and a fact?

Go back to crying in GD and que some lfr, you’ll feel better

[Redheadchild-kul-tiras (Redheadchild)]

You ignore the fact that guild banks are every bit as scammable, if not more so due to the increased number of people that have access to that guild bank.

Even your precious in game log really shows nothing of value. The only thing is shows is who withdrew items they had permission to withdraw. They do not show what happened to those items after they were withdrawn.

Did Johnny steal those guild resources to fund that epic mount he just bought or did he give them to Billy as he claims he did? Did Billy actually receive those guild resources and sell them to fund that epic mount he just bought and he’s just lying when he claims he never received them?

Oh you can still steal from a guild bank, it’s just much more likely you will get caught due to those uneditable logs. Because the person got caught they will likely lose their access to the guild bank, and thus prevent him from continuing to scam the guild. And if it’s the guild master doing it, it is easy for guild members to see it happening and STOP donating to stop being scammed.

But with the guild bank alts logging system it’s easy to edit the logs and prevent the scam from ever being discovered.

Guild bank logs won’t stop the initial scam, but they do give you accurate tools to identify the scam and address it, meaning the scam can be stopped from continuing.

You continue to ignore that fact.

[Galdor-maelstrom (Galdor)]

Can you learn proper grammar before posting?

Do you still need schooled

[Starz-boulderfist]

Damnit! iPhone posting. You rekt me there man. Well played sir

[Fesz-cenarius]

You ignore the fact that guild banks are every bit as scammable, if not more so due to the increased number of people that have access to that guild bank.

Even your precious in game log really shows nothing of value. The only thing is shows is who withdrew items they had permission to withdraw. They do not show what happened to those items after they were withdrawn.

Did Johnny steal those guild resources to fund that epic mount he just bought or did he give them to Billy as he claims he did? Did Billy actually receive those guild resources and sell them to fund that epic mount he just bought and he’s just lying when he claims he never received them?

Oh you can still steal from a guild bank, it’s just much more likely you will get caught due to those uneditable logs. Because the person got caught they will likely lose their access to the guild bank, and thus prevent him from continuing to scam the guild. And if it’s the guild master doing it, it is easy for guild members to see it happening and STOP donating to stop being scammed.

But with the guild bank alts logging system it’s easy to edit the logs and prevent the scam from ever being discovered.

Guild bank logs won’t stop the initial scam, but they do give you accurate tools to identify the scam and address it, meaning the scam can be stopped from continuing.

You continue to ignore that fact.

Tell us all how those precious “uneditable” logs show who the thief is, if there even is a thief.

[Lãrrel-akama (Lãrrel)]

I just don’t see someone who plays BFA content as someone who has classic development’s best interest at heart.

That’s odd, you’ve given Matcauthon more likes than anyone else and he plays BfA content more than anyone here.

Haha, I noticed that a while back reading one of his posts. And every time I agree with him now I’m a little weirded out by it.

[Redheadchild-kul-tiras (Redheadchild)]

Through pattern recognition. The more solid and trustworthy facts you have the easier it is to determine what is happening.

Uneditable logs can go a long way to finding that pattern because if it’s a purely he said she said argument we are back to the salemn witch trials, which is what guild bank alts issues led to. I personally got burned at the stake back in vanilla because of it, which is part of the reason I support guild banks. Because I saw the dark side of guild bank alts personally.

[Fesz-cenarius]

Through pattern recognition. The more solid and trustworthy facts you have the easier it is to determine what is happening.

Uneditable logs can go a long way to finding that pattern because if it’s a purely he said she said argument we are back to the salemn witch trials, which is what guild bank alts issues led to. I personally got burned at the stake back in vanilla because of it, which is part of the reason I support guild banks. Because I saw the dark side of guild bank alts personally.

If only there were a way to store your own items if you find yourself unable to trust anyone else.

Oh, wait…

[Janesice-frostmane (Janesice)]

Of course; I’d prefer guild banks, but I’m largely no changes. I’m just happy to be getting classic and praying they don’t change gameplay and balance.

And, if they aren’t added, I won’t cry either.

[Blindsáp-stormrage (Blindsáp)]

I love you v much

[Blindsáp-stormrage (Blindsáp)]

mm anarchists these days

[Redheadchild-kul-tiras (Redheadchild)]

Guild bank alts don’t promote trust, trust involves being able to see the results of said trust for if it was misplaced. Guild bank alts do promote faith, because faith is blind with 0 actual facts.

But sure, tell everyone the solution to being ripped off is to just not trust anyone instead of trying to fix an exploitability system.

[Malleotempus-emerald-dream]

I’ll play Gbanks are fine

I wonder how many that are against it plan on being the guild banker spending time they could be playing the game messing around with spreadsheets.

[Padrepwn-kiljaeden (Padrepwn)]

Appreciate all of the honest replies everyone.
Sorry I’m running rifts and can’t reply to them all. Lol

[Fesz-cenarius]

Guild bank alts don’t promote trust, trust involves being able to see the results of said trust for if it was misplaced. Guild bank alts do promote faith, because faith is blind with 0 actual facts.

But sure, tell everyone the solution to being ripped off is to just not trust anyone instead of trying to fix an exploitability system.

Trust is not “I’ll trust you as long as I can watch you like a hawk, just waiting to catch you making the slightest mistake.”

I could see someone who knows that they themselves cannot be trusted having that kind of attitude, but that couldn’t possibly be anyone on these forums, could it?

[Redheadchild-kul-tiras (Redheadchild)]

Trust is not “I’ll trust you as long as I can watch you like a hawk, just waiting to catch you making the slightest mistake.”

I could see someone who knows that they themselves cannot be trusted having that kind of attitude, but that couldn’t possibly be anyone on these forums, could it?

lets look at this from real world for a moment.

you trust your bank right? does your bank provide facts back to you through statements and other forms of logging?

now lets say you find some person on the street and ask him to hold onto your money. are you putting your trust in him, or a blind faith? keep in mind you know nothing about this person other than face value, same as with the internet. you don’t even know if he gave you his real name, you don’t know what town he lives in, what he does, exc. you don’t even know if he will be there tomorrow because you know nothing about his life. So just like the internet acquaintances we know of people from playing games with them.is that trust, or blind faith? keep in mind wow gold has real world $$$ value.

do you see giving the money to a stranger as trust, or blind faith, with a bank there is tracking, you have reference points, exc. but a random stranger? to me that’s blind faith.