No it’s not due to 1 hour mail delivery delay. It’s a “workaround” with a ton of downsides.
Plus guild banks deprecate the mail delivery delay as you can just transfer items instantly between characters.
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In your eyes.
Blizz just so happens to have a different set of eyes.
Let me help your tired eyes. This has been waiting for some replies for 2 days.
Never denied this either. Times have changed.
This isn’t the same beast nor will it ever be.
People have and will exploit this. Guranteed.
Like I’ve said I’ll play either way. One just has me more involved in the community.
It’s not the one that can be a free gold/real money stream that gba’s are either.
This actually.
It’s been flagged 4 times with 2 days. Lying again huh padrepwn
You mean the 30 day storage box that you can ping pong items between toons?
Which along with alt storage defeats the inventory management argument. Check.
What do I care if it’s an hour delay on items I’m storing when I’m out questing in the world and i find a conveniently (such an ugly word) located mailbox so I don’t have to go to a major city?
Which i have and will point out both systems have depending on the PoV of the users and the situation.
You can not honestly say more mailboxes than major cities doesn’t provide quite a convenience when out in the world.
I might add which is the only place inventory management really does matter.
This too is situational.
A. Both parties have to be in a major city for this to be instantly transferred in that instance.
B. This is also dependant upon the access level of both parties. It does you no good to deposit an item you can’t withdraw if you need it right then and there.
Not saying I didn’t see any arguments, just none valid. If you’re worried about misappropriation of guild funds, find a crew you can trust.
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also, good job putting a thread on a discussion forum and expecting people to only answer a yes or no question. seems a bit dense to expect people not to discuss the topic.
Not valid in your eyes.
Those beady lil gnome eyes are not blizz’s eyes.
Do you need a link to the largest video game scams in the history of the industry or can we crack on?
Internet anonymity and potential for real money does not make for much trust.
Like I said I’ll get my epic sooner by not contributing to gba’s or I’ll contribute to a nice in game guild bank with a log that provides some level of transparency, traceability, and is more in the spirit of Vanilla than what blizz has already said they are planning on doing.
If you will. Note I edited the OP to reflect just that.
Yea because an honest answer to a question is the enemy.
I guess you can say I’m a bit dense or naive to expect a clear cut honest answer. Especially when the regulars scurried for their alts because you all know.
That is one of the bottom line questions they are asking when discussing every aspect of this project.
They set us up by dropping loot sharing and possible sharding of the start zones on us to see how the community would react to them.
Well sorry but the first few days of alt brigading tge forums and the back and forth between people who basically said ok let’s play it won’t detract drom the experience.
Yea that was blizz testing the fence so to speak.
Honestly it went over a lot better than I expected it to. Lol
Expect a few more surprises.
You’ve been conditioned.
Now that is just racist, besides you smell of decay and your mommy is a mummy.
My guild purchased everyone’s epic mount for them at level 60, always had mats on hand for crafters, and never seemed to have any issue. I’m sure there are cases in which there was a problem.
I don’t disagree that guild banks are great for transparency, but I do believe that it would change game mechanics that would have a drastic change on gameplay and the vanilla experience, hence I do not believe that is a valid argument for adding something new to the game.
LOL.
I’d still rather be a dead guy than a gnome.
Now that was racist in our little virtual fantasy world our avatars live in.
Sounds like an awesome guild. If it didn’t have gnomes and was horde I would swear my daggers to their banner.
Such as?
How can it be an invalid argument if you’re not stating why it’s invalid?
All you’re stating is that it’s an invalid arguement because you say it is.
Emotionally, guild banks don’t belong in the game. They weren’t part of an experience that many players either never got a chance to have or haven’t had in a decade.
Logically, guild banks are an inevitability. Sooner or later the game will be in need of a massive gold sink to fend off inflation. The auction house only moves coin from player to player (minus the AH cut). Prices on non-AH goods and services will remain the same. Other than learning riding, there are no ways to remove significant amounts of gold from the economy.
Also, as I previously stated, there is no gearing cycle where old blues and purples are replaced by TBC greens. You max out the gear you get from your playing style (It’s been a while but I’m pretty sure that PvP, raiding and PvE all have different top end armor and weapons) and that’s it. Everything you get after that is an expendable asset.
I love the idea of a static Classic stand alone server option. I’m a BC baby so it’ll be new for me. However, this whole guild bank debate has me looking down the road not only the 6 months or so until it appears, but 6 years down the road when those who have stuck around will find themselves in a position where some of the warts will be smoothed over by resources in abundance.
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This is a new take or It’s what we are honestly dealing with when it comes to the opposition of guild banks. Emotion.
Which also takes it right back to the OP question:
Will people still play if gbanks are added?
I agree with everything else you’ve stated in this post.
I hope you don’t feel I’m ignoring the rest but I agree with it and see no need to quote the entire thing.
Well said.
Have some Padre love.
It’s a cut above some of the fake alt love being shared around here.
I want there to be a dialogue on guild banks. Part of having a dialogue, for me at least, means having to examine a situation from all sides. My position has been the same from the day Classic was announced. I don’t want changes. However, I’m also a realist. Things will have to change at some point because the rules have changed. We as players will have to adapt to the new rules and decide how we want our voices to be heard both now and in the future. That doesn’t guarantee that Blizzard will listen to us, but it’s the only chance we have to play the game we want to play regardless of our individual opinions on issues.
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lol. i don’t even know what a guild bank really is. I mean, i can figure out the gist of it. But I’m trying to figure out why it’s such a big deal.
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As far as I’ll be concerned, it will be little more than wall decoration at the bank.
A guild bank is basically a warehouse where players both deposit and withdraw gold and items for the benefit of the group that has formed the guild. There are varying levels of access to its contents as determined by the guild master. (My apologies if you knew all of this)
The debate is between the desire for a literal recreation of the original Vanilla experience (which guild banks weren’t a part of) and the practical concerns regarding ways to manage (collect, catalog and distribute) the large amounts of items that result from many players sharing resources. While this was done in Vanilla without guild banks, it did mean players often violated the ToS by sharing an account to ensure access to the items was more readily available.
The only thing that both sides agree on is that the other side is wrong.
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Well, at least you have reached the third stage of grief–bargaining.
There is no need for those opposed to guild banks t “give up anything” as guild banks were NEVER part of vanilla.
And you know that Blizzard “happens to have a different set of eyes” how?
Nothing Blizzard has said has indicated in any way that they will be adding guild banks.
In fact, everything Blizzard has said seems to point the opposite direction. You can choose to stick your fingers in your ears, going “NAH!!! NAH!!! NAH!!! I can’t hear you!!” all you want, but that doesn’t change what Blizzard has said.
Ah right back to the same ol Ratsy.
So are we out of the hypotetical and back in reality.
The reality where those counter points await their proper thought out reply in the gbank thread or that other thread.
It matters not.
It’s all basically the same discussion just someone felt their own thread was needed for attention and I made this one for answers to a simple question so ofc it sparked debate.
Ah well. As the Classic World turns…