It’s both and since the overall experience of vanilla comes from both the memory of the past and the mechanics it makes it impossible to recreate. In theory you can recreate the same game mechanics but without the same experiences the memory can never be recreated.
The no change crowd seems largely like the crowd that scored 4 touch down in a single game of high school football.
Yea asking for a rebuttal to those claims is a skam dunk. /sarcasm
When none is given.
So since it’s a stale mate we can move onto the compromise.
Since bith sides are giving something up.
We add guild banks with high costs and deterrents to keep personal guild banks out.
See how discussion moves forward when both sides are willing to compromise and actually discuss the issue.
GG.
No one’s giving anything up because it’s not even a thing yet and none of us have the control to implement what we want.
Well if you have new input or some rebuttals to where the gbank thread left off.
I’ll be happy to discuss them in that thread.
That’s odd, you’ve given Matcauthon more likes than anyone else and he plays BfA content more than anyone here.
This is the number one reason they should not be in the game, now having a bank alt gets even better!
a better question would be, “Will you still play classic if the bank situation is like it was in classic, and, guild banks are not added?”
So you’re going with inventory management as the number one reason they should not be in game.
Using alts as storage is a work around of inventory management.
You can not honestly claim inventory management and then say bank alts are ok.
That is known as hypocrisy.
Then start the thread and I’ll give you my honest answer to that question.
I’ve stated it numerous times as is. So have others.
I like guild banks because they are fun.
Fun to see contributions of gold and all kinds of mats, builds esprit de corp when you see so many pitching in.
I noted that bank alts would “be even better” (if guild banks were available to them), this doesn’t directly advocate for the use of bank alts - although that would be rather imposable to stop.
I don’t understand how you don’t see that having guild banks obtainable by individuals would not just increase the number of said bank alts but also turn them into part of the meta for any one with gathering professions or who uses the auction house regularly. Also, it would flood realms with 1 person guilds, which while not game breaking, would just be dumb and not very immersive.
Obviously this is not a deal breaker for many people so this thread is disingenuous in that it sets guild banks as the standard, which they are not, and a second thread asking the same question backwards seems rather unnecessary.
…which isn’t a good enough reason to have them in Classic. I like transmog but both of these things didn’t exist in Classic.
Yup. Pro changes logic; " I WANT THEM SO THEY SHOULD BE IN REGUARDLESS IF THEY ARE BAD FOR THE GAME"
ignorance.
If we added everything because players wanted it regardless of if its bad for the game wed have retail 2.0
Let me just quote Trump…
Padrepwn is a mess!
Padrepwn is the weakest person on this stage by far!
Padrepwn is a mess!
Padrepwn is a big fat mistake!
Excuse me Padrepwn! Padrepwn is a mess!
Two days ago Padrepwn said hed take his pants off and moon everyone! Hes a nasty guy!
I dont get along with everyone but I say this every night before I go to bed, Padrepwn is a mess! Padrepwn is a mistake! Padrepwn is a big fat mess!
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report inc from pro changes.
Hard but not impossible.
Mail could have been restricted long ago to not allow the 30 “grace” period and the cap on mail could have been lowered to prevent it’s use as storage.
IF blizz wanted inventory management to be considered core gameplay.
They can easily say “We don’t want you doing this. If you do this you will be banned” and then go about enforcing it and using w/e other restrictions to make it happen.
Hard, costly, and to what end? Not impossible though.
They never have though. In fact they went the other way and added even more storage.
Inventory management falls on it’s because of this.
I didn’t say this anywhere. if blizz does not care about personal guild banks then yes ofc those who can save up the gold will purchase a guild bank for the bank alt they alreadt had made anyways.
How do you not see that alt bank toon will be made regardless if gbanks being added or not.
Who already employ an army of alt banks to do exactly that.
That AH toon was made for that exact purpose.
How do you not see that?
Yet the realms being flooded with toons having bank variations as their name isn’t the exact same thing?
Yea sorry i didn’t see any characters in lotr or GoT named banksomethingorother. Unless you count the iron bank which is nit a character but an organization.
Obviously people have issues honestly answering a yes or no question because that question takes every single mental gymnastics reply in these threads and completely invalidates them.
That is why there are not many regular posters in here but there sure are a lot of fresh faces in this thread.
But not in classic.
I actually like guild banks but they belong in another game…However, I can see at this point that you know, but don’t care, how it would affect game play and community or that would be introducing new and unneeded mechanics to a recreation of a game that never had them. Good job picking my post apart and saying basically nothing. Have fun trolling.
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Basically sums up pro changes. There is no reasoning with Padrepwn. He twists everything. Watch what hell reply. I bet it will be about how you “cant refute his logic”. Hes an ignoramus.
Excuse me Jeb! Jeb is a mess! Jeb is a big fat mistake!
Which is the only valid arguement presented.
On the contrary I’ve put an immensive amount of thought into exactly what they will and will not effect.
I’ve answered darn near eveey single point brought up in opposition to guild banks and if I didn’t other posters have.
The amount of collective thinking that us regular proponents of guild banks have put into this is actually kind of staggering.
The fact that the proponents have even given solutions/suggestions to appease points such as personal guild banks alone shows that we have thought this through and care enough to do such.
Mechanics in a different form from gba’s? At the end if the day guikd banks do the same thing as gba’s. Store items.
They have even been shown to work almost the exact same way and that the “qol convenience” is mostly dependant upon who’s PoV in the transaction with the bank and gba’s.
Replying to each of your points is “picking apart your post”.
No. That is called discussion.
Oh I’ve said nothing? Ah i see where you’re going.
Well you can:
Another one bites the dust when met with logic and reasoning.
Hope this one doesn’t start screaming non sense like the last bump in the road to guild banks.
Padre makes his exit as Another One Bites The Dust starts playing
No its not but you continue to ignore the other reasons thinking they don’t matter.
Jeb is a mess!
Which is the only valid argument needed. But you must be blind if you haven’t seen the others. It is funny that you say that though because I haven’t seen a single valid argument for adding guild banks…They are completely unnecessary, I mean, millions of people got by without them for years… in the same content we will be playing…